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Originally Posted by Qsilver7
Aftermarket options being "objectively superior"? What if one sees it differently...with these options not being "objectively superior"...but rather "subjectively" superior (or inferior)? For someone like me (and perhaps Opie55)...we may not have the same needs/wants/desires that the aftermarket options provide and find the native BMW system works fine with what it offers and how it operates.
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If one "sees" it differently, it is then subjective. If one does not have a need for a superior solution, it does not make that solution any less superior. It's just that you don't feel that you are going to get any benefits from that superior solution. Apples and oranges.
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Originally Posted by Qsilver7
I rarely make or take phone calls while driving...and I NEVER take text messages while driving. So there's nothing "inferior" about those native features in the way that I use them.
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There is nothing inferior... in your subjective judgement. Again, apples and oranges.
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Originally Posted by Qsilver7
But If I need to use the navigation system locally...99% of the time it's not because I'm lost or don't know where I am...but usually curious which way (in my head) is the fastest way there or back. If I'm using it for a longer trip/journey, I find using BMW connected or entering the info manually easy enough. And I just happen to like how the native navigation system looks (especially in perspecitive view) as well as how it sends additional info to help with exits/turns/junctions/etc to the HUD or to the "split screen" if you don't have the map spread across the entire display.
In regards to music...again, the native system provides everything I need. I don't have an extensive digital music collection stored on my phone (or anything or anywhere else)...I mostly listen to talk radio or a couple of satellite radio music stations. If I do get bored with any of those main three stations in my PRESETS...I just press the MODE button on the steering wheel to switch over to BLUETOOTH where I can listen to (usually) SPOTIFY from my smartphone.
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You seem to confusing "works for me" and technically objectively superior. Apples and oranges.
Just because built-in nav using the bmw app works, does not mean that it is better over a solution that provides virtually indefinite different map interfaces (through apps), traffic/incident/police/pulled over vehicle/... reporting, always up to date maps, traffic lights, etc.
Just because music works for you does not mean it is better than using ANY music app on your phone (not just Spotify) that streams over cloud or your uses your phone music. Etc etc.
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Originally Posted by Qsilver7
As already mentioned in comments above...from my point of view aftermarket systems aren't viewed as "objectively superior" in regards to what they offer. The native iDrive system works great for my needs...I put aftermarket solutions & offerings in the "subjectively better" column.  If they offer some service or feature that is preferred over the native iDrive system...I see nothing wrong with that. But can I not still not favor the way an aftermarket system looks? |
I am not entirely sure why you got so stuck on "objectively better" just because an inferior solution works for you. Analogy of a CRT TV over 4k amoled tv comes to mind. Pretty sure there are people who prefer a CRT tv because... it works for them. Fine. But that 4k tv is still objectively better.
I was originally commenting because you discredited CarPlay based on how it looks. I find that surprising in the era of smartphones that look very similar to what you were discrediting. To the same point, I am pretty sure there are people out there for whom a landline phone works better than a smartphone. Put again, we are in the subjective vs objective territory.