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Originally Posted by Cortexiphan
Actually, you’re living the best days of BMW. Until approximately a decade ago, BMW were unreliable and unsafe cars with boy racer kind of feel. Then they progressively got better and now they’re better than they’ve ever been.Things that didn’t exist before like: comfort, reliability, security, efficiency, technology comes as standard now in addition to much better performance.
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Better than ever is both subjective and objective though.
Objectively better, sure. For all the things you mentioned.
Subjectively though, I'm not so sure. Especially M models had just the right balance of luxury and sport. We're to a point now, IMHO that have tipped more for luxury than sport. What do I base that one? They're bigger, heavier, more expensive than ever before.
The E9X generation was when the scales began to tip in the wrong direction. The F8X generation tipped it back a bit in some areas and further buried the needle in the other direction.
The G8X continues to bury that needle. Bigger, heavier, more tech. I have no doubt though the G8X will beat the F8X in performance metrics. Just like every generation did to the previous.
Faster around the 'Ring isn't the end all, be all metric to what makes a BMW a BMW. From the way the G8X looks, too many sacrifices were made whether that be made in the name of performance, being "bold", or just trying to be different that they managed to kill what made an M car in the first place.
An M car, especially the M3, was never about being the loudest looking car on the road. It looked like almost every other 2-door or sedan with some minor aesthetic changes so that those who knew understood they weren't just looking at another grocery getter.
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Originally Posted by Cortexiphan
E36 is pretty much a moving casket, very unreliable, very bad in terms of build quality and materials, very unstable and doesn’t have 50-50 weight distribution that started with E46. So unless you have nostalgic feelings, E36 is a tractor compared to G20. And E39 M5 is less aggressive and slower than my 540i and floatier and softer than a 530i without an M sport package. If millennial sees all the nonsensical praise for old cars here then goes ahead and drives one, he would be severely disappointed.(Maybe except E46)
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And I would rather have an E39 M5 than your 540i. I could care less if you blew by me. Actually, the E39 M5 is what got me hooked on M cars long ago.
It's not all about being the fastest. There was something different about M cars back then. That's not being nostalgic, it's the truth.