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Originally Posted by GuidoK
No, 1 lap and part of a lap (9/10 or so; whatever his lead was on PER prior to pitting; 6-10 sec or so).
LEC passed start/finish 1 time before he pitted after PER.
If it was 2 complete laps later, he would have passed start/finish twice before pitting after LEC. And he didn't. It was 1 time.
That "every littlie thing" resulted in PER gaining 2 places, in Monaco...where overtaking is pretty much impossible.
And thus winning the race.
I call that superior. A Debbie Downer calls it nothing special. Calling winning Monaco while starting from 3rd a "little thing"...Debbie Downer indeed. 
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That's essentially 2 laps, because the pit entrance is literally at the end of the lap. So ferrari did not respond the lap of perez boxing, they literally waited essentially 2 laps. If Charles is leading and perez behind boxes, that means Charles would cross the start finish line while perez is in the box, so at the end of this lap ferrari should have boxed him to respond - they would have about 92 seconds to respond because 92 seconds was about the lap time charles was setting on the lap perez boxed.
https://www.racefans.net/2022/05/29/...mes-and-tyres/
However if you look at the more accurate F1 reported box times and not the lap counter which is inaccurate especially on the live broad cast, you see charles boxed exactly 2 mins and 57 seconds after perez boxed. This is
177 seconds, does this look like
92 seconds to you? Times are concrete, no worrying about the broad casters changing the lap counter, no worrying about who the race leader is to set the lap count.
The
data doesn't lie, ferrari botched the response and that led to redbull taking over. Redbull's strategy would have gotten them nothing if ferrari were so stupid and either boxed the lap of to respond to perez or tried to hold off and do a one stop to dries. The pit stop time for redbull was 24 seconds on perez, so if ferrari wanted to they had essentially 20 laps (even if perez was 1 second a lap faster on the inters) to buy time for the track to dry and try an alternative one stop strat to slicks, but nope they dropped the ball hard.
So call me a debbie downer all you want, you don't have any concrete data just screen shots of an inaccurate lap counter. I have solid timing from f1 and lap time charts of the race.
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Originally Posted by M5Rick
Yup it was officially L17 when Checo stopped after the start line in the RB box shown on the sky tv and a brilliant strat that Ferrari just couldn't match with the top gun strat'ers at RB.
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It's not the lap that is important it was how long ferrari took to respond, and the data doesn't lie it was essentially 2 laps. So they botched the response to redbull, there was nothing superb or extraordinary about redbulls strategy. Just simple undercut and hope it was dry enough that the undercut on inters was powerful enough to put them in the lead. But it wouldn't have been if ferrari responded immediately within the 92 second window or knew they botched it and gambled for a one stop to slicks.