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      12-20-2025, 10:02 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Phillies8008 View Post
Why does it matter whether or not they drive you around? That seems like an odd dividing line. Why is driving a van deserving of a tip while delivering a package – which takes much more effort – not?
Simple - in one case YOU get driven around and have an opportunity to observe quality of service as it is delivered to YOU. It is a personal experience.
In the other - your package is one of a dozen or a hundred other boxes stacked in the back of the van, and gets dropped off at your doorstep. It is an impersonal experience.

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My bolding on your quote: this is the key part of the whole thing. I just fail to see how a courtesy van driver, nor 90% of the people who've suddenly come to expect a tip, has done anything to deserve one.
If he does - he does.
If he doesn't - he doesn't.

You are way over-thinking this!

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How does one know? This out of control tipping environment now has expanded into occupations that tips were NEVER an expectation.
Again - a personal service interaction has always been an opportunity to reward someone for a job well done. This has been the norm throughout my lifetime, and has nothing to do with the recent tip-cashier-terminal-prompt epidemic.

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As I said in other replies, I'm where I am financially because I care about every dollar that I spend.
If you can't afford it - no-one will force you.
But everyone indulges in discretionary spending, more often than we care to count. Tipping is another one of those events, if the service deserves it.

Don't over think it, and don't get distracted with political crap!

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