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      12-19-2025, 07:21 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by zx10guy View Post
How does one know? This out of control tipping environment now has expanded into occupations that tips were NEVER an expectation. It's not my place to subsidize an employer's low balling of wages.

As I said in other replies, I'm where I am financially because I care about every dollar that I spend. I can certainly piss away the money I have that most Americans do to have a very flashy lifestyle. But I don't. I grew up with basically nothing with immigrant parents that busted their ass working labor intensive and multiple jobs. I myself have worked as a server and laborer.

Per a previous reply in this thread, I tipped a lady that there wasn't an expectation for any tips...no tip jar in your face...no tip request in the credit card charge transaction. I tipped her because she did go above and beyond with her service and didn't expect a tip for doing so.
Yep. Employers are absolutely using tipping as a tool to further under-pay employees. My son's employer shamelessly admitted it, telling him that though they pay minimum wage, he'd make up the difference in tips. It was a tacit admission that they purposefully under-pay with the expectation that their customers will make up the difference.

And the worst part: he was absolutely right. They do, and then some.
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