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      02-19-2013, 06:28 PM   #23
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This vid has to be a fake because the GTR is the fastest car ever. No car can beat it.

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im not saying nothing can beat it, but from the numerous testing done on it its a bargain supercar, check the nurbergring or top gear and see where an m6 sits. for one its dumb to even argue about a quick roll race lol , for two he wouldnt beat a 2012 stock to stock, if the gtr was runnign the factory set 93 octane. id challenge anyone in sacto area for a race. il lower my boost to match the 2012 hp and il prove it to ya. these type of posts give off false advertisement. i can give you 20 posts of gtrs spanking the m6 on you tube as well...
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ignorant ... cant you get the point that the m6 isnt faster than the 12/13 gtrs takeoff or off a roll..



heres one of my bad traction days couple weeks ago. bad 60 foot, but trap is still good.
That's as usefull as showing a sheet from a 2004 M5 manual!!
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That's as usefull as showing a sheet from a 2004 M5 manual!!
you asked for it you got it, no i went and did this on my tacoma truck or actually i stole this slip from a guy at my local racetrack...
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That's as usefull as showing a sheet from a 2004 M5 manual!!
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i can give you 20 posts of gtrs spanking the m6 on you tube as well...
Post em up.
There is only one vid out there with a modded GTR racing a brand new M6.
Post up all of your so called 20 vids of a GTR spanking the new M6
Fact is, there aren't too many vids out there.
You keep bringing up track times from professional drivers. Are you a pro driver? Nope
Anyway, I think you're missing the point. These vids are showing the new M6 against the '12 GTR from a roll and one from a dig. There is another one from a dig in the wet - where the M6 won. You can quote professional driver times, Top Gear, Nurburgring times, all day long but at the end of the day, it don't mean jack $h1t
Why? Because you're not a pro and neither will be the guy you may race in an M6
Real world scenario would be light to light, rolling race on the hwy, rolling race on a frontage road and in some cases, an air strip etc.
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heres a more better matched vid. comparring apples to oranges here again.
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Post em up.
There is only one vid out there with a modded GTR racing a brand new M6.
Post up all of your so called 20 vids of a GTR spanking the new M6
Fact is, there aren't too many vids out there.
You keep bringing up track times from professional drivers. Are you a pro driver? Nope
Anyway, I think you're missing the point. These vids are showing the new M6 against the '12 GTR from a roll and one from a dig. There is another one from a dig in the wet - where the M6 won. You can quote professional driver times, Top Gear, Nurburgring times, all day long but at the end of the day, it don't mean jack $h1t
Why? Because you're not a pro and neither will be the guy you may race in an M6
Real world scenario would be light to light, rolling race on the hwy, rolling race on a frontage road and in some cases, an air strip etc.

there obviously isnt alot on youtube because the car just came out. why dont you compare it to a 2013 then? why compare to a older model lol. mall cruiser vs supercar. and yes i do track my car if that makes you sleep better at night. hell even the m3 to me is a far superior car at the trace track and daily driver over the m6 to me at least it was . im sure everyone has their own opion on a daily.
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there obviously isnt alot on youtube because the car just came out. why dont you compare it to a 2013 then? why compare to a older model lol. mall cruiser vs supercar. and yes i do track my car if that makes you sleep better at night. hell even the m3 to me is a far superior car at the trace track and daily driver over the m6.
Man, I'm sorry you're having a hard time understanding all of this. The OP posted up his vid racing a '12 GTR. Actually, 3 different times from 3 different '12 GTR's and 3 different owners....
The '12 GTR has 530hp (that's crank hp in case you forgot already) and the '13 GTR (you should know this.....) wait for it, wait for it...... Do we have an answer? Yes! It's 545hp and NOT raced in the vid! *the audience goes wild*
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Read the description.
Y-pipe, decat with a tune is probably good for 580hp (Modded vs stock)
you might need your glasses lol , all its says is decat ypipe witch is called a catless midpipe here in the states, whitch might add about 15 hp or so. no tune
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Man, I'm sorry you're having a hard time understanding all of this. The OP posted up his vid racing a '12 GTR. Actually, 3 different times from 3 different '12 GTR's and 3 different owners....
The '12 GTR has 530hp (that's crank hp in case you forgot already) and the '13 GTR (you should know this.....) wait for it, wait for it...... Do we have an answer? Yes! It's 545hp and NOT raced in the vid! *the audience goes wild*
you dont have to tell me what the op posted because all i see is a rigged or setup video to get some praise that he is so fast lol. who knows how they do it in africa, id like any of you to race a 2012 stock nissan gtr here in the us. and il shut my mouth forever, and say the the new m6 is fast in a straight line .
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you dont have to tell me what the op posted because all i see is a rigged or setup video to get some praise that he is so fast lol. who knows how they do it in africa, id like any of you to race a 2012 stock nissan gtr here in the us. and il shut my mouth forever, and say the the new m6 is fast in a straight line .
just for fun, here's a video of Chris Harris testing the new M6 and calling it a RWD GT-R! If the M6 is slow, Chriss does'nt seem to know it!


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Lol at the BMW M car trying to be like a Nissan.
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This vid has to be a fake because the GTR is the fastest car ever. No car can beat it.

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im not saying nothing can beat it, but from the numerous testing done on it its a bargain supercar, check the nurbergring or top gear and see where an m6 sits. for one its dumb to even argue about a quick roll race lol , for two he wouldnt beat a 2012 stock to stock, if the gtr was runnign the factory set 93 octane. id challenge anyone in sacto area for a race. il lower my boost to match the 2012 hp and il prove it to ya. these type of posts give off false advertisement. i can give you 20 posts of gtrs spanking the m6 on you tube as well...
Hey man not trying to add to the flame war here I just don't understand why the GTR owners are so riled up about these vids. All these vids show are an M6 being faster than a GTR on these particular occasions, nothing more. I can show you vid of an M3 getting passed by a Jetta wagon during a DE at LRP. Does that mean a Jetta is faster than an M3? No, it means the driver of the M3 didn't know WTF he was doing.

Point is there are a lot of variables in street racing. There is always someone faster so try not to get all butt hurt because someone posted a vid showing a GTR getting beat by an M6. Take it for what it's worth.

Btw the driver of the M3 in the example above was me - in my first DE.
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Hey man not trying to add to the flame war here I just don't understand why the GTR owners are so riled up about these vids. All these vids show are an M6 being faster than a GTR on these particular occasions, nothing more. I can show you vid of an M3 getting passed by a Jetta wagon during a DE at LRP. Does that mean a Jetta is faster than an M3? No, it means the driver of the M3 didn't know WTF he was doing.

Point is there are a lot of variables in street racing. There is always someone faster so try not to get all butt hurt because someone posted a vid showing a GTR getting beat by an M6. Take it for what it's worth.

Btw the driver of the M3 in the example above was me - in my first DE.
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GTR fanboys just relax, take a deep breath or 2 or 10 and read this:

All of us already know the GTR has a massive AWD launch system, and there is no doubt in anyone that the GTR will win robot to robot races.

What these videos demonstrate is that once traction is out of the way the M6 kills the GTR. Hence the race for 1000m or rolling. The GTR will still have a 1sec 0-100 advantage over the M6, and if it is faster than the M6 then it should keep its lead or even increase it even if the distance is longer than 400m. Correct?

The race was in the video was not to determine who has the better traction system or fastest reaction time. Just because a car hits 100 faster than the other, doesn't say it will be faster up to 300km/h or 1km.

Rolling start: better understanding of the CARS potential. Standing start; better understanding of the DRIVERS potential or AWD system.
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you might need your glasses lol , all its says is decat ypipe witch is called a catless midpipe here in the states, whitch might add about 15 hp or so. no tune
IF you think a GTR owner will do decat Y pipe and not do tune then i am governor of state of Texas and i got a blond slave in my garage. Common. That is why i said find stock GTR because most of the ones i know are modded like mofo.

The problem with racing tuned cars is people lie to understate their mods. Speaking of tuned cars, imagine potential for tuning between 3.8L V6 vs 4.4L V8. There is no substitute for displacement. I said potential before i get flamed so we are not talking what is currently available.

A win is still a win and everyone should stop being so sensitive
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IF you think a GTR owner will do decat Y pipe and not do tune then i am governor of state of Texas and i got a blond slave in my garage. Common. That is why i said find stock GTR because most of the ones i know are modded like mofo.

The problem with racing tuned cars is people lie to understate their mods. Speaking of tuned cars, imagine potential for tuning between 3.8L V6 vs 4.4L V8. There is no substitute for displacement. I said potential before i get flamed so we are not talking what is currently available.

A win is still a win and everyone should stop being so sensitive
Well said!
That's what I was thinking as too. It may not say that in the description but I thought that goes without saying?
Who would do a decat Y-pipe and not a tune??
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IF you think a GTR owner will do decat Y pipe and not do tune then i am governor of state of Texas and i got a blond slave in my garage. Common. That is why i said find stock GTR because most of the ones i know are modded like mofo.

The problem with racing tuned cars is people lie to understate their mods. Speaking of tuned cars, imagine potential for tuning between 3.8L V6 vs 4.4L V8. There is no substitute for displacement. I said potential before i get flamed so we are not talking what is currently available.

A win is still a win and everyone should stop being so sensitive
i'd love to see someone stroke out an m6 motor to something like a 4.8, add a set of gt35rs and some fuel system mods. Some 3.8l GTRs are stroked out to 4.4+ these days

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i was expecting to see the m6 pull away from the gtr, but what i saw in that video... sorry it looked like the m6 was making 200-300 hp more. gtr does the 1/4 mile in low 11's and the m6 pulls away from it like that?

to pull away like that the m6 would be doing low 10's.

i would say the guy in the gtr wasnt really racing.

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I've got a 13' GTR Black Edition and run 11.2 quarter mile runs very frequently..

The driver of the car does make a difference.

That all being said, the BMW M6 is a monster of a car! We're talking about a twin turbo V8 here guys! 560hp and I've seen M5's and M6's make over 500 hp to the wheels on dynos completely stock.

The GTR does lose a large amount of power because of the AWD system but i can tell you a M6 wouldn't pull on a gtr like that if the driver had the GTR in race mode and was a GOOD driver.
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GTR fanboys just relax, take a deep breath or 2 or 10 and read this:

All of us already know the GTR has a massive AWD launch system, and there is no doubt in anyone that the GTR will win robot to robot races.

What these videos demonstrate is that once traction is out of the way the M6 kills the GTR. Hence the race for 1000m or rolling. The GTR will still have a 1sec 0-100 advantage over the M6, and if it is faster than the M6 then it should keep its lead or even increase it even if the distance is longer than 400m. Correct?

The race was in the video was not to determine who has the better traction system or fastest reaction time. Just because a car hits 100 faster than the other, doesn't say it will be faster up to 300km/h or 1km.

Rolling start: better understanding of the CARS potential. Standing start; better understanding of the DRIVERS potential or AWD system.
fyi i am not a fanboy but when you post bs and trying to make other people that dont know any better that stock to stock ur m6 is faster your full of it. ive raced a f430/ viper/ new m5 all on the hghway when i was stock and i pulled on all of them. the m5 and viper i didnt pull very fast but i was pulling on them even after 120 mph this is why i call bs on your post. you pulled on them like you had 200 more than them , when in reality you have 300 more pounds of wieight and 30 more hp than the 2012. so it should be a very tight race on the highway not blow his doors off. stop dreaming and face reality here..
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Well said!
That's what I was thinking as too. It may not say that in the description but I thought that goes without saying?
Who would do a decat Y-pipe and not a tune??
teh first mod i did and most of teh gtr owners is a catless midpipe/ or ypipe. this gives the gtrs a much better exhaust sound and like a said around 15hp. and you do NOT need a tune for this. if you eliminate the main cats which are in the downpipes then he would need a tune. i understand that everyone wants their car to be the best and the fastest. but face reality. im talking from my experience, and others i witnessed.
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