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      02-11-2013, 01:39 PM   #23
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Dude what difference does this all make. Regardless of all you data analysis.. The M6 clearly killed it..
well, whats the big point in a car with 553 bhp beating an 473 bhp car FROM A ROLL.
A car thats stated 0-200 1 sec faster than the GT-R (and we know the gt-r is for sure faster in the start due to its AWD so the m6 catches up and beats his time by 1 sec despite the slow start!).

Nothing fabulous there. Just looking at the specs it would have been clear from the beginning... just as is written afterwards, the m6 is 1 sec faster 0-200. Why should it be slower from a roll....

It would be amazing if the 553 bhp heavier car (M6) would beat the 542 bhp lighter car. Where the gt-r in this case is stated to be 1 sec faster 0-200 than the M6.
Dont you think?

a simple look at :
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/nissan_gt-r-vs-bmw_m6_2012.html
would already confirm that the M6 is faster than a 2008 Gt-R on the straight line.
So whats the big point in this post?

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Look man if Nissan quotes 10.7 0-200 then maybe they should produce a GTR that actually achieves that. Ive never seen a stock 2012 GTR do 0-200 in 10.7 EVER! And if it does do 10.7 0-200 then why could it not beat my "slow" M6?
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I heard if you use the Gtr's launch control around 10 times it will brake the transmission. Then you'll need to pay 30,000 to fix it. lol
From what I understand, this was a problem for early model GTR's, when they claimed a 3.0 sec 0-60 or some craziness. Now they reduced the time to mid 3's by reducing the tranny's grab on the launch, thereby increasing the longevity of the transmission. Also, I believe early GTR's had a voided warranty for using launch control for this very reason. It has since been rectified, I believe.
I have had 2 GTR's and they are amazing sport cars. The LC issue which plagued early models has been fixed. A 2012-2014 GTR will hit 60 in as low as 2.7 seconds. From a dig a GTR would destroy my M5 to 100mph.
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I have had 2 GTR's and they are amazing sport cars. The LC issue which plagued early models has been fixed. A 2012-2014 GTR will hit 60 in as low as 2.7 seconds. From a dig a GTR would destroy my M5 to 100mph.
I have no doubt. They are incredible sports cars. Without some mods on an m5 or M6 or a supercharger on an M3, the GTR is bye-bye. From a dig, GTR will tend to DESTROY cars (AWD), but some will eventually reel it in.

In any regard, all amazing cars!
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Look man if Nissan quotes 10.7 0-200 then maybe they should produce a GTR that actually achieves that. Ive never seen a stock 2012 GTR do 0-200 in 10.7 EVER! And if it does do 10.7 0-200 then why could it not beat my "slow" M6?
maybe because its just a 2008 gt-r... didnt you read my posts about your stated 12.2 0-200 assumption?
The outcome of the race would exactly macht the numbers.... but i wrote it twice. No need to rewrite it a third time if you didnt read it the first two times.
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The F13 M6 is no joke, if you also watch it race the Ferrari 458 Italia and beat it from 0-100 kph as well as other exotic cars like the Nissan GTR.
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maybe because its just a 2008 gt-r... didnt you read my posts about your stated 12.2 0-200 assumption?
The outcome of the race would exactly macht the numbers.... but i wrote it twice. No need to rewrite it a third time if you didnt read it the first two times.
It's clearly NOT a 2008 and that is easily determined by the LED's on the front bumper and the wheels.

At the very least, its a 2011.

So, the OP stands correct....
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Dude what difference does this all make. Regardless of all you data analysis.. The M6 clearly killed it..
LOL Data analysis? How about real life numbers from real people on the dragstrip. These are all stock GT-R also not modified. Modified numbers are on the link below.
1. Either your friend can't drive.
2. Something wrong with that GT-R
3. 2008 vs 2012-2013 obviously is a huge difference that you just don't want to acknowledge. Look at the bottom of the list and you will see 2006 M6 being beaten like no tomorrow so is that the same as the GT-R beating your M6? Beating a 2008 GT-R saying it is the same as a 2012 just because they both are GT-R are retarded. It is like me saying I beat a E46 M3 is the same as me beating an E90 M3.
4. Your M6 should do the quarter mile in about 12.0-12.4 even if you can do it at 11.8 your car is still well behind some of the stock GT-R times posted below.
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...nName=Compare!

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Hartge Germany already has a very mild conversion of 700hp 860nm for M5 / M6 and AC schnitzer 640hp 820nm
Don't even talk about mods as any mod on a GT-R will demolish the M6.
Just look at these numbers for a modded GT-R, and these are real life numbers.
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...nName=Compare!

Comparing luxury GC to a sport car is always a no win situation especially if you want to throw some curves in the race.
M6 is a nice car but comparing it to the GT-R which eats Porsches for lunch is crazy. Why don't you post up a video of your car beating a 911turbo and see what people say.

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I have an SLS coupe and an M6 cab. Though Ive never raced them together I have driven the back to back. The SLS feels only a little faster 0-60 but takes off after that. But thats only my butt dyno, looking forward to seeing the real results.
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Dude what difference does this all make. Regardless of all you data analysis.. The M6 clearly killed it..
LOL Data analysis? How about real life numbers from real people on the dragstrip. These are all stock GT-R also not modified. Modified numbers are on the link below.
1. Either your friend can't drive.
2. Something wrong with that GT-R
3. 2008 vs 2012-2013 obviously is a huge difference that you just don't want to acknowledge.

Beating a 2008 GT-R saying it is the same as a 2012 just because they both are GT-R are retarded. It is like me saying I beat a E46 M3 is the same as me beating an E90 M3.

http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...nName=Compare!

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Hartge Germany already has a very mild conversion of 700hp 860nm for M5 / M6 and AC schnitzer 640hp 820nm
Don't even talk about mods as any mod on a GT-R will demolish the M6.
Just look at these numbers for a modded GT-R, and these are real life numbers.
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...nName=Compare!

Comparing luxury GC to a sport car is always a no win situation especially if you want to throw some curves in the race.
M6 is a nice car but comparing it to the GT-R which eats Porsches for lunch is crazy. Why don't you post up a video of your car beating a 911turbo and see what people say.
Not sure if some here tend to ignore or pretend to not see parts of the video to prove their argument.

THIS IS A 2012 GT-R as indicated at the beginning of the video and as indicated by the GT-R's LED and wheels.
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Not sure if some here tend to ignore or pretend to not see parts of the video to prove their argument.

THIS IS A 2012 GT-R as indicated at the beginning of the video and as indicated by the GT-R's LED and wheels.
I believe his point was that since the new GT-R is quicker based on actual measured performance in the dragtimes.com, it means that either something was wrong or that the GT-R driver just let the M6 to win for the bimmer driver to feel better.

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LOL Data analysis? How about real life numbers from real people on the dragstrip. These are all stock GT-R also not modified. Modified numbers are on the link below.
1. Either your friend can't drive.
2. Something wrong with that GT-R
3. 2008 vs 2012-2013 obviously is a huge difference that you just don't want to acknowledge. Look at the bottom of the list and you will see 2006 M6 being beaten like no tomorrow so is that the same as the GT-R beating your M6? Beating a 2008 GT-R saying it is the same as a 2012 just because they both are GT-R are retarded. It is like me saying I beat a E46 M3 is the same as me beating an E90 M3.
4. Your M6 should do the quarter mile in about 12.0-12.4 even if you can do it at 11.8 your car is still well behind some of the stock GT-R times posted below.
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...nName=Compare!



Don't even talk about mods as any mod on a GT-R will demolish the M6.
Just look at these numbers for a modded GT-R, and these are real life numbers.
http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...nName=Compare!

Comparing luxury GC to a sport car is always a no win situation especially if you want to throw some curves in the race.
M6 is a nice car but comparing it to the GT-R which eats Porsches for lunch is crazy. Why don't you post up a video of your car beating a 911turbo and see what people say.
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BS. Something is wrong with this video. They are not even in the same league.

0-60 on a 2012 is 2.9 and quarter mile 11.1-11.2, easlily reproduced by launch control.

2013 is down to 2.8 and 2014 down to 2.7, probably under 11 sec. in the quarter mile.

Guy in GTR either can't drive or something is wrong with the car.

It would be like saying a 911 Turbo S gets beat down by an M6.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-r-test-review.

http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/n...w_m6_2012.html

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Next time I'll think twice about running M6s though
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LOL yes, on paper the GTR is the fastest car in the universe.. You can quote all you want, the proof is in the pudding, now eat it and be quiet! :P
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It's a GTR.

It's only real advantage is from zero.

During a roll, cars with less power will keep up with it.
The M6 has 600hp stock.
It's proven by dyno numbers.

So everyone STFU. The M6 on a rolling start will be faster than any stock production GTR. Get off the GTR bandwagon. Jesus.
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I addressed this post on the M5 board so I just have a few questions for you Dreamer:

. How does your car, restricted to 250 km/h, reach 265 km/h in a kilometre sprint when the M driver's package (305 km/h) isn't available in S.A? Is your car "stock" as that clip proclaims?

. How is it possible that your car can reach 265 km in the kilometre sprint at Gauteng's altitude of ~5000 ft. above sea level when a 997 turbo S can reach 261 km/h at sea level? Is your car faster than a Turbo S?

If we tabulate figures supplied by yourself and compare them to data for a Turbo S and GT-R it's readily apparent that something is amiss:

Vehicle 0-1000 m sec trap speed

Turbo S 20.2 261 km/h (sea level)

2012 GT-R 20.4 258 km/h (sea level

F12 M6 21.7 265 km/h (altitude)???

You even stated that your car still had something left in reserved so do you reckon 270 km/h? That would put you in the league of the McLaren MP 4-12 C, a car that traps 136 mph in the 1/4 mile and 0-200 km/h in 8.7 secs.

My contention is that the M6 would be significantly slower than the 542 bhp GT-R from 0-200 km/h, with or without launch control. You were way off the mark. The GT-R does not take 12.2 seconds to get to to 200 km/h. That figure's more indicative of the M6 notwithstanding the 11.2 second anomaly you referred to.

It's also far faster than the F13 M6 in a kilometre sprint (0-1000 m).

So I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this one.

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Here I am racing a GTR 2010 Stage 2 mod 540+hp decat, high boost, software etc.. Guess his car was also broken, couldnt drive or whatever excuse the GTR fanboys will have.

PS This one is faster than the 2012, saw it myself at ODI raceway, you will see it keeps up a bit longer than the 2012.



Sorry for video was taken by my girlfriend and a cell phone.

So this is 2 different GTRs both lost???
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We all know that 250 limit from M cars are more in the area of 270, has always been. A F10 M5 runs 258km at altitude on 1km! 2012 GTR 258!! FACT! Been there done that! If the trap speed was broken then is was broken for everyone which will still make the M6 faster. Bring your 2012 GTR, inbox me and we set up a race, me vs you! Show me then how fast your GTR is.

"McLaren MP 4-12 C, a car that traps 136 mph in the 1/4 mile and 0-200 km/h in 8.7 secs." In what world is this????

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Here I am racing a GTR 2010 Stage 2 mod 540+hp decat, high boost, software etc.. Guess his car was also broken, couldnt drive or whatever excuse the GTR fanboys will have.

PS This one is faster than the 2012, saw it myself at ODI raceway, you will see it keeps up a bit longer than the 2012.



Sorry for video was taken by my girlfriend and a cell phone.

So this is 2 different GTRs both lost???
Nah. You are just a dreamer and they play along
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