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pkim1079 · 02-07-2013, 03:44 PM

Its an m6. Its never gonna be a true m car is it? Leave that to the m3s and 1m coupes and hoping it applies to the newer m2/3/4.

the infamous... · 02-07-2013, 04:22 PM

vladberca · 02-07-2013, 04:29 PM

M6 is more near CL 63 to me, and if we test one next to the other we'll not see so many advantages for the Merc.
On the other hand, M6 with Individual interior is awesome

JSCO · 02-07-2013, 04:56 PM

1.he had the lamest interior combo...
2.R U KIDDING?? THe guy didn't even mess with the settings and really put it to the test..FAIL!!
3.Exterior looks--not even close..M6 is a beauty..

Faust · 02-07-2013, 05:14 PM

They are not direct competitors imo. The 6-Series is enormously bigger than the SL. More like a CL competitor than SL. The new SL, even though it looks big in the eye (probably because of being so wide) is actually pretty compact, no longer than say, a Skoda Octavia.

Jetblack1 · 02-07-2013, 05:41 PM

The m5 and m6 have huge engines but they aren't pure sports cars Dont they share a platform with a rolls Royce? Also the dash on the m6 is so tall and expansive it seems difficult to place. That said I drive a 1 series so I'm very biased. Also if i had the coin, I'd get the m6 over most anything for the looks alone. The sl is quite hideous.

dreamspeed · 02-07-2013, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YungDro

what the hell are you on about. M5 is always king of super saloons. every review M5 is on top. all tests etc. M5 is ontop.

and for the M6 its far better than the SL in everyway.

I'm not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic. I googled M5 vs. comparisons and the first hit was

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

In which the M5 comes in last place...beaten by a S6... not a RS6 but a S6.

Nang Vann · 02-07-2013, 06:31 PM

M6 looks hot!

Imola.ZHP · 02-07-2013, 07:50 PM

I don't understand why they keep comparing a 4-seater and a 2-seater and expecting them to compare well...

Of course the MB feels more rigid, as a 2-seater, IT SHOULD!

DiavelM3 · 02-07-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TreDirtyFive

Get over it people...did you get to test and beat on both cars on a variance of roads and a circuit and make a relative comparison? No. But, he did. He is comparing the looseness of the M to the merc and that just means the merc felt stiffer and more compliant overall. Don't forget the merc also has "comfort" mode as its default as well which, most likely, means its comfort setting is just programmed sportier than the M's.

Im sure the M6 is stiff and sporty enough for 95% of the people out there, but alas fanboy's will always cry and shout. One day Chris is the best reviewer around to you guys and the next he is a "paid off" schmuck? It is well known that there have been many mixed reviews on all of BMW's new cars including the M6...being softer, less communicative, and generally less sporty than previous iterations. I think the M6 is a much better looking car and would easily take it over the SL, even if it is pure fact that it is slower and less fun to drive, simply because it speaks to me more. Anyhow, he did pick the M6 initially, didn't he? I'm sure you M6 guys would be in an uproar if he put it up against a cheaper and lowly GTR that will surely smack it on a track and perhaps destroy the M in a straight line...at least from a launch. Bah, it is a BMW forum I suppose.

Personally I don't think the two cars should have even be compared. I think the
CL63 AMG and the M6 is a better comparison.

宝马.e90 · 02-07-2013, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamspeed

I'm not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic. I googled M5 vs. comparisons and the first hit was

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

In which the M5 comes in last place...beaten by a S6... not a RS6 but a S6.

How do you feel about the E60 M5?

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...mparison-tests

In which the M5 comes in last place...beaten by a S6...not a RS6 but a S6.

Being the benchmark goes beyond what magazines think.

jerseygirl · 02-07-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by I Bleed BMW Viscous

The M6 cab Wobbles!!?? I can not believe it. You would think they would know how to make a steering wheel and or structural rigidity, that doesn't wobble!

OK BMW, this is your chance to acknowledge and fix said issue...

Well...? I'm waiting...

im glad bmw does fair reviews. im dissapointed slower than a merc cabrio? wobbles? how could i buy this? hopefully the M3 and M4 will be the best M cars. like always

Rob///M5 · 02-07-2013, 08:40 PM

The suspension, steering and throttle settings dramatically affect feel and performance. I too am shocked that Chris discounts this entirely. That's what makes these cars so special...their duality.

I am amazed at the stiffness of the car in sport plus. Night and day from comfort.

These guys review hundreds or cars, but if they're gonna do it, they should take the time to do it right

Hunter5179 · 02-07-2013, 09:29 PM

On the sportiest setting my M6 feels like its ready for the track. Very stiff. Again if he was driving in comfort I can understand maybe a slight wobble when going hard but I haven't noticed. Maybe it was the rear end kicking out on him a little and he thought it was a wobble. I don't know.

uhn2000 · 02-07-2013, 10:19 PM

Chris Harris is an awesome journalist and while some of you may disagree with this controversial review I am actually quite surprised the M6 did as well at it did. I have driven an SLS numerous times and sensation + power wise it kills my M5 - so for him to say the SL is better is quite something. And for the M6 to even be compared in this group having such a large price difference is also a feat for BMW. Both great cars and there is a reason that BMW just hired the chassis engineer from AMG - they are doing something right! And btw, I still won't buy one !! LOL.

ToyotaBMW · 02-07-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter5179

On the sportiest setting my M6 feels like its ready for the track. Very stiff. Again if he was driving in comfort I can understand maybe a slight wobble when going hard but I haven't noticed. Maybe it was the rear end kicking out on him a little and he thought it was a wobble. I don't know.

Guys this guy drives million dollar cars and real pure road race cars like the 911 etc. so when he says it wobbles he is comparing it to cars that he has experience with under all conditions. Unless you guys have driven all the cars Chris has to compare it with then take his word for it.
Chris Harris is not like the magazines, and is pretty consistent with his reviews. If you question this guys reviews than you better not read or watch any reviews on cars anymore.
He is basically as good as it gets to non biased reviews.

Hunter5179 · 02-07-2013, 11:11 PM

Understandable and I agree. I'm just saying I haven't noticed anything from my experience with different cars some worse than others. I'm sure he knows what he is talking about as for me I'm happy with my M6's handling. That's all.

AbuArije5 · 02-07-2013, 11:12 PM

Can never get mad at another journalist opinion esp if he been doing this for a while.

Mr.Metak2you · 02-07-2013, 11:13 PM

Am I the only one that thinks the SL looks pretty good?

Hunter5179 · 02-07-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Metak2you

Am I the only one that thinks the SL looks pretty good?

I like it. I def don't think its ugly.

BMWJones · 02-08-2013, 12:16 AM

Just get the new M4 and cell it a day. ðŸ˜Ž

mrbenyong · 02-08-2013, 12:36 AM

Aside from looks, maybe the dct, the merc is a better car. A lot of bmw fan boys just cant accept it. I hated the old met bc of its weight and it was a slower car than the old m6, now it's reversed. So I don't like the m6 anymore vs the SL. I'm not a badge loyalist.

02-07-2013, 03:44 PM	#23
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02-07-2013, 04:56 PM	#26
JSCO Colonel Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,931 iTrader: (3)	1.he had the lamest interior combo... 2.R U KIDDING?? THe guy didn't even mess with the settings and really put it to the test..FAIL!! 3.Exterior looks--not even close..M6 is a beauty.. __________________ "March 2012 Car of the Month" http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=644184 RIP!! SOLD AUG 2012

02-07-2013, 06:31 PM	#30
Nang Vann Major Drives: E46 M3, R35 GT-R Join Date: May 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 1,145 iTrader: (0)	M6 looks hot! __________________ Moving on up!

02-07-2013, 07:50 PM	#31
Imola.ZHP 100% PAID FOR! Drives: 2003 BMW 330i ZHP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mud Island, TN Posts: 1,803 iTrader: (0)	I don't understand why they keep comparing a 4-seater and a 2-seater and expecting them to compare well... Of course the MB feels more rigid, as a 2-seater, IT SHOULD! __________________ -- '03 330i ZHP -- Marcus

02-07-2013, 04:29 PM	#25
vladberca Colonel Drives: '09 jetta tsi 6mt Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Craiova Posts: 2,869 iTrader: (0)	M6 is more near CL 63 to me, and if we test one next to the other we'll not see so many advantages for the Merc. On the other hand, M6 with Individual interior is awesome

02-07-2013, 05:14 PM	#27
Faust Private Drives: Vauxhall Calibra Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London Posts: 85 iTrader: (0)	They are not direct competitors imo. The 6-Series is enormously bigger than the SL. More like a CL competitor than SL. The new SL, even though it looks big in the eye (probably because of being so wide) is actually pretty compact, no longer than say, a Skoda Octavia.

02-07-2013, 05:41 PM	#28
Jetblack1 New Member Drives: e82 n55 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: California Posts: 22 iTrader: (0)	The m5 and m6 have huge engines but they aren't pure sports cars Dont they share a platform with a rolls Royce? Also the dash on the m6 is so tall and expansive it seems difficult to place. That said I drive a 1 series so I'm very biased. Also if i had the coin, I'd get the m6 over most anything for the looks alone. The sl is quite hideous.

02-07-2013, 08:40 PM	#35
Rob///M5 Captain Drives: 2013 M5 SSII Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 991 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW M5 [5.00]	The suspension, steering and throttle settings dramatically affect feel and performance. I too am shocked that Chris discounts this entirely. That's what makes these cars so special...their duality. I am amazed at the stiffness of the car in sport plus. Night and day from comfort. These guys review hundreds or cars, but if they're gonna do it, they should take the time to do it right __________________

02-07-2013, 09:29 PM	#36
Hunter5179 Captain Drives: 2013 M6 Coupe Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 647 iTrader: (0)	On the sportiest setting my M6 feels like its ready for the track. Very stiff. Again if he was driving in comfort I can understand maybe a slight wobble when going hard but I haven't noticed. Maybe it was the rear end kicking out on him a little and he thought it was a wobble. I don't know. __________________ 2013 M6 Coupe SG, Akropovic Evo Carbon, Vorsteiner Full Aero Kit & VSE-003's 3PC 20's, Gruppe M Intake, Bel Stir Plus & V1 with HP Laser Interceptors, JL Custom 2X12W6V2's Subs, 35% tints all around.

02-07-2013, 10:19 PM	#37
uhn2000 Big K... Drives: F10 M5, Cayenne S Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,314 iTrader: (0)	Chris Harris is an awesome journalist and while some of you may disagree with this controversial review I am actually quite surprised the M6 did as well at it did. I have driven an SLS numerous times and sensation + power wise it kills my M5 - so for him to say the SL is better is quite something. And for the M6 to even be compared in this group having such a large price difference is also a feat for BMW. Both great cars and there is a reason that BMW just hired the chassis engineer from AMG - they are doing something right! And btw, I still won't buy one !! LOL. __________________ R8GT Spyder '12 / M5 '13 (MT)

02-07-2013, 11:11 PM	#39
Hunter5179 Captain Drives: 2013 M6 Coupe Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 647 iTrader: (0)	Understandable and I agree. I'm just saying I haven't noticed anything from my experience with different cars some worse than others. I'm sure he knows what he is talking about as for me I'm happy with my M6's handling. That's all. __________________ 2013 M6 Coupe SG, Akropovic Evo Carbon, Vorsteiner Full Aero Kit & VSE-003's 3PC 20's, Gruppe M Intake, Bel Stir Plus & V1 with HP Laser Interceptors, JL Custom 2X12W6V2's Subs, 35% tints all around.

02-07-2013, 11:12 PM	#40
AbuArije5 Second Lieutenant Drives: Non Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New York Posts: 252 iTrader: (0)	Can never get mad at another journalist opinion esp if he been doing this for a while.

02-07-2013, 11:13 PM	#41
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02-08-2013, 12:36 AM	#44
mrbenyong Trying to make the best of the 325 Drives: F10 535i 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Malaysia Posts: 61 iTrader: (0)	Too bad for m Aside from looks, maybe the dct, the merc is a better car. A lot of bmw fan boys just cant accept it. I hated the old met bc of its weight and it was a slower car than the old m6, now it's reversed. So I don't like the m6 anymore vs the SL. I'm not a badge loyalist.

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