BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   6Post.com | BMW 6-Series Forum > BMW 6 Series Forum > General 6-Series Coupe, Convertible, and Gran Coupe Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-09-2012, 03:57 PM   #23
m630
Lieutenant
 
m630's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 640i GC
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: nyc/li

Posts: 522
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mako View Post
The 4 gc will be smaller than the cls550 and A7. And it better not start at $65k-$70k.
Are we certain of this? remember, the f30 grew to basically the dimensions of the e39, so the 3er now fills the size of the 5er just two generations ago, has the e class/cls grown as well? if not the size may not be that different...

and certainly, based on the price of the f30 335i, i could see the car being in the 65-70K range nicely equipted
__________________
'13 640i Gran Coupe Black Sapphire Metallic w/ Cinnamon ...Lux Seats / CWP / Prem Sound...and pure driving excitement!!!
'13 335i M Sport, DESTROYED by SANDY Estoril blau II/black
Dearly departed '08 M6 . . .Interlagos Blau/SS II...Past lives...'05 645Ci...'00 323i...'85 735i...'77 630CSi...'86 325es ...'01 740iL...'09 X3
m630 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 04:13 PM   #24
aajami
Brigadier General
 
aajami's Avatar
 
Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA

Posts: 4,013
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by m630 View Post
Probably...just look at it this way, im moving to the 335i Msport when it comes out in Sept, and based on the build sheet of the 335i today, and adding in additional costs for the msport options, the msrp is close to $60K, so yes, you can buy a 3er thats just as much if not more than a 535i, so certainly the 435 GC will be in the 60s and im sure it will be in the higher end as it will probably offer options not available on other lines..
Yeah, I know that you can outfit a model to be more expensive than a base version of the next model model in the lineup. What I'm asking is, will the base 4-series GC be more expensive than the base 5-series, assuming they both have the same engine?
__________________
'09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather | ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL | link 1 / link 2
Mods: M Performance exhaust | ZCP retrofit | Euro airbox | GTS DCT flash | 240J ECU flash | LCI Euro taillights | CRT lip | OEM alarm retrofit | Space Gray bumper plugs | BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
aajami is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 04:16 PM   #25
aajami
Brigadier General
 
aajami's Avatar
 
Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA

Posts: 4,013
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by m630 View Post
Are we certain of this? remember, the f30 grew to basically the dimensions of the e39, so the 3er now fills the size of the 5er just two generations ago, has the e class/cls grown as well? if not the size may not be that different...

and certainly, based on the price of the f30 335i, i could see the car being in the 65-70K range nicely equipted
I think it's established that the 4GC will be built on the F30L (China-only long wheelbase) platform. So whatever the length of the F30L, that will be the size of the 4GC.

I can't imagine that puts it in E-class/CLS territory in terms of size. I have to imagine it will still be smaller than the F10.
__________________
'09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather | ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL | link 1 / link 2
Mods: M Performance exhaust | ZCP retrofit | Euro airbox | GTS DCT flash | 240J ECU flash | LCI Euro taillights | CRT lip | OEM alarm retrofit | Space Gray bumper plugs | BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
aajami is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 04:27 PM   #26
SchnellM3
Digger
 
SchnellM3's Avatar
 
Drives: 03 E46 M3, 09 E92 M3, 09 X6 50
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Pa

Posts: 2,616
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
I wish these were coming out sooner
__________________
2009 E92 M3 /// Melbourne Red /// Fox Red /// M DKG

Full Innotech Exhaust - DINAN Intake - IND Engine Bay Appearance - IND Hand Stitched Boot Covers - and much more....
SchnellM3 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 04:32 PM   #27
sali
Private First Class
 
Drives: 2014 Jaguar FType V8S BMW535i
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NYC

Posts: 127
iTrader: (0)

It looks gorgeous but the pricing is a little crazy. I went to MBUSA website and configured a CLS550 and fully loaded it was $76,000. If you do an ED, it was close to $70k. Also, CLS comes with a 402 bhp V8 vs 301 bhp N55.
sali is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 04:55 PM   #28
Weird Side Effect
Side effects may include...
 
Weird Side Effect's Avatar
 
Drives: e90 M3, e46 M3
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Houston

Posts: 168
iTrader: (0)

As big a fan I am of BMW, and as much as I disliked (still kind of do) the Porsche Panamera, I think I'd choose the Panamera over all of the ones listed. And the interior BMW chose to show in these pics looks horrible.
Weird Side Effect is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 05:02 PM   #29
joey5622
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 535xi
Join Date: May 2011
Location: vancouver bc

Posts: 364
iTrader: (0)

Will there be an all wheel 640? What comes with the base 76k? Kinda wish this was in the market when I ordered my f10, wouldve had an extra car to choose from!
__________________
2012 535xi Imperial Blue Oyster interior
2012 Lexus CT200h Star fire pearl Ivory interior
2008 Infiniti G35x Aspen pearl Graphite interior - you are missed my friend
joey5622 is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 06:39 PM   #30
3s-a-charm
Major
 
3s-a-charm's Avatar
 
Drives: 13 E70 X5 3.5i M-Sport
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Calgary, Canada

Posts: 1,142
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2007 BMW X5  [0.00]
I don't think I'd ever get tired of that interior...
__________________

13 X5 xDrive 35i M-Sport Black/Oyster (Hers)
07 X5 4.8i Sport Black/Black (Winter/DD)
03.5 M3 Cabriolet Steel Grey on Black (Summer Fun)
PAST: 08 E92 M3, 08 535xiT, 06 E90 325i, 87 E30 325i, 85 E30 318i
3s-a-charm is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 07:23 PM   #31
elias
Private First Class
 
elias's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 650 M Sport
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Virginia

Posts: 185
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superspeed View Post
Of course you are right, but this is not about value for money.
It's all about style, looks and exclusivity. That's what you pay for, if that's your priority
+1 Totally agree if you want to play at this level you have to pay no two ways about it!
elias is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 07:41 PM   #32
m630
Lieutenant
 
m630's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 640i GC
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: nyc/li

Posts: 522
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aajami View Post
I think it's established that the 4GC will be built on the F30L (China-only long wheelbase) platform. So whatever the length of the F30L, that will be the size of the 4GC.

I can't imagine that puts it in E-class/CLS territory in terms of size. I have to imagine it will still be smaller than the F10.
I agree it will be smaller than the F10, id hate it if it was even close in size to the F10, that thing is a boat, and the reason why im going with the F30 over it as ithe 3er will be much more dynamic. Id expect the 4GC to be more sporty than the CLS, and im sure that it will also be a competent 4 seater based on the positive stories on the f30, and the f30L is sure to add a few more inches to the rear seating area. So, put it this way, with the 4GC you'll get a car thats the size of an e39 but have a sporty coupelike design with the 4door access, that will be the real winner, and in M guise will be unbeatable.
__________________
'13 640i Gran Coupe Black Sapphire Metallic w/ Cinnamon ...Lux Seats / CWP / Prem Sound...and pure driving excitement!!!
'13 335i M Sport, DESTROYED by SANDY Estoril blau II/black
Dearly departed '08 M6 . . .Interlagos Blau/SS II...Past lives...'05 645Ci...'00 323i...'85 735i...'77 630CSi...'86 325es ...'01 740iL...'09 X3
m630 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 08:32 PM   #33
aajami
Brigadier General
 
aajami's Avatar
 
Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA

Posts: 4,013
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by m630 View Post
I agree it will be smaller than the F10, id hate it if it was even close in size to the F10, that thing is a boat, and the reason why im going with the F30 over it as ithe 3er will be much more dynamic. Id expect the 4GC to be more sporty than the CLS, and im sure that it will also be a competent 4 seater based on the positive stories on the f30, and the f30L is sure to add a few more inches to the rear seating area. So, put it this way, with the 4GC you'll get a car thats the size of an e39 but have a sporty coupelike design with the 4door access, that will be the real winner, and in M guise will be unbeatable.
Indeed. I'm excited to see how the F8X M4 GC stacks up against the F80 M3.
__________________
'09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather | ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL | link 1 / link 2
Mods: M Performance exhaust | ZCP retrofit | Euro airbox | GTS DCT flash | 240J ECU flash | LCI Euro taillights | CRT lip | OEM alarm retrofit | Space Gray bumper plugs | BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
aajami is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 10:53 PM   #34
Rickster311
Second Lieutenant
 
Rickster311's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW M1
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: California

Posts: 209
iTrader: (0)

Hey guys..



To throw something in the mix..

What about Audi's new S7? It has a 4 liter twin-turbo TFSI V8, puts out 420 hp and 406 tq. Just saw it today and it has the luxury of the 640 GC, with a lot more power, tunable motor, and AWD standard.. For the same price range. Oh and the pop up spoiler is just awesome.
Rickster311 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 11:08 PM   #35
THE JEDI
Major
 
Drives: 2005 Z4 2.5i
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: JAPAN, Okinawa

Posts: 1,436
iTrader: (0)

Not feeling the color....but man thats a sweet looking ride...but man $100,000 easy
THE JEDI is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 11:18 PM   #36
Mako
2000 M Roadster (sold), 2006 M Coupe (sold)
 
Drives: '12 X3 35i M Spt '13 335 M Spt
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chicago

Posts: 1,318
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickster311
Hey guys..



To throw something in the mix..

What about Audi's new S7? It has a 4 liter twin-turbo TFSI V8, puts out 420 hp and 406 tq. Just saw it today and it has the luxury of the 640 GC, with a lot more power, tunable motor, and AWD standard.. For the same price range. Oh and the pop up spoiler is just awesome.
Basically it competes with a CLS550 which also can be made with awd for $2500 extra. Same power and size and probably price.

CLS550 was tested 0-60 in 4.2 seconds A7 might be the same. What will 640i be? 5.4? Can't compare to the 650 because that will be $15k more in cost.
Mako is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-09-2012, 11:19 PM   #37
Mako
2000 M Roadster (sold), 2006 M Coupe (sold)
 
Drives: '12 X3 35i M Spt '13 335 M Spt
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chicago

Posts: 1,318
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by m630
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mako View Post
The 4 gc will be smaller than the cls550 and A7. And it better not start at $65k-$70k.
Are we certain of this? remember, the f30 grew to basically the dimensions of the e39, so the 3er now fills the size of the 5er just two generations ago, has the e class/cls grown as well? if not the size may not be that different...

and certainly, based on the price of the f30 335i, i could see the car being in the 65-70K range nicely equipted
6 gran coupe is only 2 inches longer and same width as cls550 and A7
Mako is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-10-2012, 12:02 AM   #38
Tattedtwice
Private
 
Drives: 2 doors, 4 wheels
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Where the sun always shines

Posts: 54
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 727jbh View Post
This car is leaps and bounds beyond the CLS and A7, IMO. Bet the M version will be unbelievable.
Nice, at least one person here has some taste. The cl-mess and atrocious7 are trash.
Tattedtwice is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-10-2012, 02:21 AM   #39
BMWPower06
A^M=G is nothing w/o the Power of ///M
 
BMWPower06's Avatar
 
Drives: ///M5 & ///M3
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Washington D.C.

Posts: 1,764
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via AIM to BMWPower06
Makes me wonder how much the M6 GC will cost...
__________________
Indianapolis Red BMW ///M5
BMWPower06 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-10-2012, 07:59 AM   #40
ATX78703
Major
 
Drives: 2014 335i
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Austin, TX

Posts: 1,002
iTrader: (0)

While it makes sense that the 6GC has an upcharge over the 6er coupe/vert, it makes no sense that a 6 series costs more than a 7 series. Especially, considering that the 6 series has so many mechanical similarities to the 5er. In all honesty, this thing actually does compete with the CLS/A7. Not the Panamera.

I guess we will never see the return of the 8 series bmw.
__________________
2014 335i RWD: ZMM, ZDA, ZDH, ZPP, ZTP, 2NH, 2TB, 5DL; Z4A MPPK; AW ext / VB int

2014 ML350: P01, R33, 297, 319, 846, 864, 889, 996; LB ext / AB int
ATX78703 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-10-2012, 08:10 AM   #41
ATX78703
Major
 
Drives: 2014 335i
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Austin, TX

Posts: 1,002
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aajami View Post
Indeed. I'm excited to see how the F8X M4 GC stacks up against the F80 M3.
bmw will most definitely follow audi in this regard: a5 is about 15-16% increase over a4 in base trim, but comes with more std features. To do anything more than that would alienate the younger buyer base. That price gap is enough for the a5 to maintain its slight "prestige" factor over the a4.

I'm not so sure that a 4GC would even make it to the states (the a5 sportback never did). They will test the waters with this 6GC first.
__________________
2014 335i RWD: ZMM, ZDA, ZDH, ZPP, ZTP, 2NH, 2TB, 5DL; Z4A MPPK; AW ext / VB int

2014 ML350: P01, R33, 297, 319, 846, 864, 889, 996; LB ext / AB int
ATX78703 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-10-2012, 08:32 AM   #42
cracker123
Lieutenant
 
Drives: AstonMartin Virage, M6 GC
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Dallas, TX

Posts: 419
iTrader: (0)

on the bright side for those who wait till end of the first model year, there will probably be $10K rebates to dealers. BMW did that during the first gen 6 series.

You can get a decently spec'd CLS63 with Designo leather + Designo paint for about $105K. Now once we add individual we can do the same with a 640i. Hmm wonder which one is better 640i vs CLS63 ?
cracker123 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-10-2012, 09:17 AM   #43
m630
Lieutenant
 
m630's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 640i GC
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: nyc/li

Posts: 522
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWPower06 View Post
Makes me wonder how much the M6 GC will cost...
Id say about $150K
__________________
'13 640i Gran Coupe Black Sapphire Metallic w/ Cinnamon ...Lux Seats / CWP / Prem Sound...and pure driving excitement!!!
'13 335i M Sport, DESTROYED by SANDY Estoril blau II/black
Dearly departed '08 M6 . . .Interlagos Blau/SS II...Past lives...'05 645Ci...'00 323i...'85 735i...'77 630CSi...'86 325es ...'01 740iL...'09 X3
m630 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-10-2012, 09:23 AM   #44
m630
Lieutenant
 
m630's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 640i GC
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: nyc/li

Posts: 522
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATX78703 View Post
While it makes sense that the 6GC has an upcharge over the 6er coupe/vert, it makes no sense that a 6 series costs more than a 7 series. Especially, considering that the 6 series has so many mechanical similarities to the 5er. In all honesty, this thing actually does compete with the CLS/A7. Not the Panamera.

I guess we will never see the return of the 8 series bmw.
Actually the 5er/6er/7er share many components so Id not say that the 6er is more similar to the 5er than the 7er, it is quite different than either in reality. In terms of lux, the 6er and 7er are on par, and the 6er has gotten some new tech even before the 7er, ie the LED headlights. And you just dont understand that BMW has move this up market, its a big car, and the 6er GC is a car as big as the 7er but with contoured seating for 4 in luxury, much more luxurious than the 7er actually if you look at the interior options. This car is an exact comparo to the Panny, its much larger than the CLS or a7, and priced accordingly.
__________________
'13 640i Gran Coupe Black Sapphire Metallic w/ Cinnamon ...Lux Seats / CWP / Prem Sound...and pure driving excitement!!!
'13 335i M Sport, DESTROYED by SANDY Estoril blau II/black
Dearly departed '08 M6 . . .Interlagos Blau/SS II...Past lives...'05 645Ci...'00 323i...'85 735i...'77 630CSi...'86 325es ...'01 740iL...'09 X3
m630 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
2013 640i gran coupe, 2013 650i gran coupe, 2013 bmw 6 series gran coupe, 2013 bmw 640i gran coupe, 2013 bmw gran coupe, 2013 gran coupe, 6 series gran coupe forum, 6 series gran coupe forums, 6-series gran coupe, 640 gran coupe prices, 640d gran coupe, 640i gran coupe, 640i gran coupe price, 640i gran coupe pricing, 650i gran coupe, bmw 6 series gran coupe, bmw 6 series gran coupe forum, bmw 6 series gran coupe forums, bmw 6 series gran coupe price, bmw 6 series gran coupe prices, bmw 640i gran coupe price, bmw 650i gran coupe, bmw gran coupe, bmw gran coupe forum, gran coupe, gran coupe forum, gran coupe forums, gran coupe prices, gran coupe pricing

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:52 PM.




6post.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST