The Obama Campaign

[e90im]

We are quoting Hillary supporters NOW? Whataf*ckever....

This is worse than quoting scripture. Get real dude.

[scottwww]

Originally Posted by e90im

We are quoting Hillary supporters NOW? Whataf*ckever....

This is worse than quoting scripture. Get real dude.

How do you like what the Hillary supporters have to say?

[Los Angeles]

Hillary as Pres and Barack ad Vice Pres is ridiculous!

Never gonna happen.

How could she even come up with something like this?!! Absurd!

Geeze, she is really desperate for some votes and its almost pathetic.

[imolazhp_ci]

i hope all three candidates get assassinated. i seriously can't stand this shit anymore.

[x26]

Originally Posted by Los Angeles

why would he roll in on 22'' in rims?

They will be Spinners on an Escalade...

[scottwww]

[Negotiator]

Originally Posted by FirstClass

Funny, last time I checked the Iraqi government/military is working hand-in-hand with our forces and they want us to be there. Additionally, UN approval has absolutely nothing to do with it. They aren't a world government and have no authority whatsoever aside from prestige and the authority of the member nations.

Orly?

The Security Council is charged with maintaining peace and security among countries. While other organs of the United Nations only make recommendations to member governments, the Security Council has the power to make decisions that member governments must carry out under the United Nations Charter.The decisions of the Council are known as United Nations Security Council resolutions.

[Los Angeles]

Originally Posted by x26

They will be Spinners on an Escalade...

Really?

Is that what you think about blacks?

Your ignorance is vibrant.

[E82tt6]

Originally Posted by Negotiator

Orly?

The Security Council is charged with maintaining peace and security among countries. While other organs of the United Nations only make recommendations to member governments, the Security Council has the power to make decisions that member governments must carry out under the United Nations Charter.The decisions of the Council are known as United Nations Security Council resolutions.

Enough of your facts! You just completely disproved his arguement with easily verifiable information! INTOLERABLE in a legitimate political disscussion!

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by Negotiator

Orly?

The Security Council is charged with maintaining peace and security among countries. While other organs of the United Nations only make recommendations to member governments, the Security Council has the power to make decisions that member governments must carry out under the United Nations Charter.The decisions of the Council are known as United Nations Security Council resolutions.

And every nation (on the council) has veto power. So again, like I said, they have no authority (over nations on the council). If they are only binding to members and all members have veto power.... I enjoy pointing out flaws in arguments. The only power they may have is over the minor members of the UN, which is again based on the authority of the member nations on the council.

Originally Posted by E82tt6

Enough of your facts! You just completely disproved his arguement with easily verifiable information! INTOLERABLE in a legitimate political disscussion!

See above.

[dr335is]

Originally Posted by FirstClass

And every nation (on the council) has veto power. So again, like I said, they have no authority (over nations on the council). If they are only binding to members and all members have veto power.... I enjoy pointing out flaws in arguments. The only power they may have is over the minor members of the UN, which is again based on the authority of the member nations on the council.

See above.

Your ignorance and your approach is the reason the US is doing what it is and why it is loved around the world.
No world power survived forever, so this one will collapse too...and it looks like it will happen sooner that I was hoping for...
THen, the lives of our kids are going to be very, very bitter...

But, you don't care as you will be dead by then...(typicel republican thinking...)

[e90im]

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[scottwww]

Barack Obama's mentor Hillary aint never been called a .....


"Jesus was a poor black man who lived in a country, and who lived in a culture that was controlled by rich, white people."

"It just came to me within the past few weeks, y'all, why so many folk are hatin' on Barack Obama. He doesn't fit the model. He ain't white. He ain't rich. And he ain't priviledged. Hillary fits the mold."

It just goes on and on...

[e90im]

^ Re-posting...is this the level you operate on now?

[Negotiator]

Originally Posted by FirstClass

And every nation (on the council) has veto power. So again, like I said, they have no authority (over nations on the council). If they are only binding to members and all members have veto power.... I enjoy pointing out flaws in arguments. The only power they may have is over the minor members of the UN, which is again based on the authority of the member nations on the council.

See above.

I'm to be honest kind of lazy, and frankly don't think that it would be worth the time to type up a shit storm about my stance on globalization, UN, and international law - those who agree, agree, and those who don't will ignore my arguments as being liberal. However, as food for thought, this is the break down on countries using their veto power since 1984 to shut down resolutions:

France - 3
China -3
Russia - 4
UK - 10
United States - 43

You're right, UN is a useless organization, because the United States is in it.

[dr335is]

Originally Posted by Negotiator

I'm to be honest kind of lazy, and frankly don't think that it would be worth the time to type up a shit storm about my stance on globalization, UN, and international law - those who agree, agree, and those who don't will ignore my arguments as being liberal. However, as food for thought, this is the break down on countries using their veto power since 1984 to shut down resolutions:

France - 3
China -3
Russia - 4
UK - 10
United States - 43

You're right, UN is a useless organization, because the United States is in it.

We use veto to protect only our interests then claim that the others who proposed the resolution are bad guys

When others use veto against our proposals, we ignore it, then call them cowards and enemy supporters...

We need a serious reality check or it will get damn tough for the next generations...

[scottwww]

Obama places his hand on his heart.

[e90im]

^^^

This photo was not taken during the pledge of allegiance. You knew that very well, yet you posted right wing crap.

Skin color bothers you that much? I thought JC was dark skinned, no?

How's Huckster doing btw? Gaining all that fat back?

[scottwww]

REV. JEREMIAH A. WRIGHT, JR.: Pastor inspires Obama's 'audacity'
In his 1993 memoir "Dreams from My Father," Obama recounts in vivid detail his first meeting with Wright in 1985. The pastor warned the community activist that getting involved with Trinity might turn off other black clergy because of the church's radical reputation.

[scottwww]

Originally Posted by e90im

^^^

This photo was not taken during the pledge of allegiance. You knew that very well, yet you posted right wing crap.

Skin color bothers you that much? I thought JC was dark skinned, no?

I never indicated anything about the pledge of allegiance. (BTW: someone else said, "The hand goes over the heart in both occasions. It's in the code book. Look it up. You're spinnin. Everyone's seein." I haven't looked it up.)

I really don't care what color was Jesus' skin. For all I care it could be white, brown, black, yellow, red... Doesn't matter to me. I do object to Reverend Wright claiming that he knows what color Jesus' skin was and that it led to Jesus' persecution.

It's good to identify with the Saviour, but not on what is most likely a lie offered to fan flames of racial divide. By his making a claim of something that seems very unlikely and using that claim to pound home his point is quite telling. For him, it would seem the truth doesn't matter. What matters to him (if that sermon is consistent with his approach to ministry) is to push racism against the white majority by screaming about past racism against the minority he represents.
Do you think Jesus was black? Does it matter? If it doesn't matter, then why did Wright make so much of it?

[scottwww]

From another forum where this article was quoted.

#1247 Mar. 15, 2008 - 4:54 PM EST

Obama in Attendance July 22, 2007 to Hear Pastor's Racial Statements - NewsMax

Submitted by brianinmo on March 15, 2008 - 3:29pm.

Obama Nodded in Apparent Agreement to "United States of White America" - NewsMax

A NewsMax article written by Jim Davis, August 9, 2007, says Barack Obama was in attendance at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago on July 22, 2007, when Davis attended the service. In that service, Davis says Jeremiah Wright used profanity throughout the message and referred to the "United States of White America," and "white arrongance" during his sermon - to nodding agreement by Barack Obama. Here is part of Davis' account of that service:

Wright's strong sentiments were echoed in the Sunday morning service attended by NewsMax.

Wright laced into America's establishment, blaming the "white arrogance" of America's Caucasian majority for the woes of the world, especially the oppression suffered by blacks. To underscore the point he refers to the country as the "United States of White America." Many in the congregation, including Obama, nodded in apparent agreement as these statements were made.

The sermon also addressed the Iraq war, a frequent area of Wright's fulminations.

"Young African-American men," Wright thundered, were "dying for nothing." The "illegal war," he shouted, was "based on Bush's lies" and is being "fought for oil money."

In a sermon filled with profanity, Wright also blamed the war on "Bush administration bulls--t."

Davis also lists some of Wright's more controversial statements over the years. Remember, this article was written last August, long before this became a raging controversy this week:

Several prior remarks by Obama's pastor have caught the media's attention:

# Wright on 9/11: "White America got their wake-up call after 9/11. White America and the Western world came to realize people of color had not gone away, faded in the woodwork, or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns." On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.

# Wright on the disappearance of Natalee Holloway: "Black women are being raped daily in Africa. One white girl from Alabama gets drunk at a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and gives it up while in a foreign country and that stays in the news for months."

# Wright on Israel: "The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism."

# Wright on America: He has used the term "middleclassness" in a derogatory manner; frequently mentions "white arrogance" and the "oppression" of African-Americans today; and has referred to "this racist United States of America."

Obama has claimed in the last two days that he never heard his pastor make anti-American or hate-filled remarks. Perhaps he needs to be pressed on what he classifies as "anti-American." Davis also recounts a statement by Wright made to the New York Times last year that certainly sounds like Obama was well aware that his pastor's rhetoric could be a problem for him - meaning he was well aware of the kinds of thing Jeremiah Wright had said:

Political pundits have suggested that Obama's problems with Wright are not ones based on faith, but pure politics. The upstart presidential candidate needs to pull most of the black vote to have any chance of snagging the Democratic nomination. Obama's ties to Wright and the activist African American church helps in that effort.

But the same experts same those same ties may come to haunt him if he were to win the nomination and face a Republican in the general election.

The worry is not lost on Wright.

"If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me," Wright told The New York Times with a shrug. "I said it to Barack personally, and he said 'yeah, that might have to happen.'"

Checkmate

[scottwww]

April 30, 2007
A Candidate, His Minister and the Search for Faith
By JODI KANTOR

Asked if he and Mr. Wright had patched up their differences, Mr. Obama said: “Those are conversations between me and my pastor.”

Mr. Wright, who has long prided himself on criticizing the establishment, said he knew that he may not play well in Mr. Obama’s audition for the ultimate establishment job.

“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”