UK MY 2014 M Sport Gran Coupe - Black Sapphire / Ivory Review/Q&A

RiverRunner · 09-25-2013, 09:47 AM

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Thank you! I was leaning towards the 640i to replace my Panamera and based off your description it seems like it would suit my daily needs more than adequately. Regarding the growl, that's what my GranTurismo is for!

My wife's 2012 740i has plenty of power when you need acceleration. It has plenty of torque to cruise in top gear without any annoying downshifts over hills. The exhaust growl is different than the 650's V8, but sounds good too. I believe the 640i is a lighter vehicle, so it should be better than the 7 series in these areas.

wzj519 · 09-25-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SpokenHands

Nothing puts a smile on my face like this little number! Loved the M6 BMW left with me a few weeks ago (ended up ordering the 6er Gran Coupe) but it didn't come close to the honest passion and power on the Maser in its impeccably flawed Italian package - when I hear that sound, al transgressions are forgiven. Hehe.

Congrats man. OMG this is sexy as hell.

Ryan9095 · 09-25-2013, 04:37 PM

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Hang on a minute! Are you saying there is at least one other person in the world with a garage list mad enough to mix German precision engineering with Italian sporting passion however flawed? You have no idea how happy you just made me. Post pictures, dude.

Haha glad to have induced a smile

I have no issue with mixing...absolutely love my Porsche and the BMWs but I must admit nothing comes close to that sexy Italian styling and exhaust...

It's perfection! I'll try to take some photos tomorrow when it's not pouring rain. Your car looks gorgeous by the way!!

Bönz · 09-26-2013, 05:51 AM

The Italian engines (I believe this includes the Massers) have flat plane cranks. That's what gives them their signature sound.

ManiacGT · 09-26-2013, 10:35 AM

Sorry to go OT here but presumably a flat plane crank can only be used in a V configuration? If in a straight configuration isn't there a danger the journals could be at 0/180?

24601 · 09-26-2013, 04:19 PM

congrats! looks good. just not a fan of the alum trim.

RiverRunner · 09-26-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 24601

congrats! looks good. just not a fan of the alum trim.

Actually, I really like how it looks with this particular color combo.

quaker_31 · 09-26-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFan

Actually, I really like how it looks with this particular color combo.

I am not a fan of the Alum trim, wanted the ash white - but needed to budget

Bönz · 09-27-2013, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ManiacGT

Sorry to go OT here but presumably a flat plane crank can only be used in a V configuration? If in a straight configuration isn't there a danger the journals could be at 0/180?

By definition, the rod journals are 180 apart. I believe many 4 cylinder inlines have flat cranks as well as boxer engines. Where such a crankshaft is atypical is in the V configuration.

ManiacGT · 09-27-2013, 06:23 AM

Understood. To my mind isn't there a risk that the engine could stop at 0/180 TDC and therefore when fired the load wouldn't push the crank?

Bönz · 09-27-2013, 11:21 AM

If you happen to shut of an inline engine and it stops with its flat crank dead vertical, as soon as you hit the starter it's rotating in the right direction. The rotational inertia of the flywheel takes it from there.

ManiacGT · 09-27-2013, 05:28 PM

Of course it is, how silly of me. I'm thinking about immediate firing which of course won't happen!

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