More potent 2016 BMW M6 Competition Package announced

[CesaroM]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

As far as I know, all M, RS and AMG cars from factory come with a speed limiter of 250 km/h. There's a reason why BMW, Audi and Mercedes have a gentleman's agreement on top speed. You should google it and read up on it. There are quite a few factors including but not limited to state regulations and corporate social responsibility.

there is audi R8 and sls amg and maybe something else I'm missing.. anyway they are not factory limited to 250kmh.

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

As far as I know, all M, RS and AMG cars from factory come with a speed limiter of 250 km/h. There's a reason why BMW, Audi and Mercedes have a gentleman's agreement on top speed. You should google it and read up on it. There are quite a few factors including but not limited to state regulations and corporate social responsibility.

But why is the B6 limited at 200mph? They should have done the same with the m6,just for marketing purposes.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by CesaroM

there is audi R8 and sls amg and maybe something else I'm missing.. anyway they are not factory limited to 250kmh.

Those are supercars and probably don't fall under the same rules as say a RS6, M5 and E63 which while have supercar performance, are still consider practical family sedans. Again, there are various factors why speed limiters were put in place. The Japanese also have a similar agreement so it's not just the Germans.

Originally Posted by djsaad1

But why is the B6 limited at 200mph? They should have done the same with the m6,just for marketing purposes.

Alpina operate under their own name so it would make sense that they are not under any obligations to follow any rules/agreements that are set by BMW.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by MrSugarSkulls

I understand your logic- but to us who own an m6 and don't track the car- it doesn't make a difference in city life.

This.

[BarryB]

Worry free stock hp.
Stock is stock. Once you start tuning, it's just a matter of how much you want to spend.....
Flame suit on :-)

[doug_999]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

That's the misunderstanding of unit conversions. B6 was announced as 600 PS (metric horsepower) which is equal to 591 HP (international horse power)

Good catch. The point remains the same however, BMW upped the comp package to have more than the B6 - which makes sense.

[MCarsFan]

I'm not interested in corporate social responsibility.. I'm not interested in being politically correct either.. I'm interested in my car and driving it as I wish and in a responsible manner or driving on a runway, circuit or private road as fast as I like.

I am offended that someone feels they have the right to choose for me what I should be allowed to do or not to do.

These limiting regulations remove personal choice and that's offensive.

Btw.. The RS7 and E63 S Model broke the Gentleman's agreement of 155mph many moons ago (you can elect to have the top speed limiter to be raised significantly higher) so for M performance cars there should not be an issue with regards to M Performance products and the M Drivers Package should be made available here in the U.S.

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by doug_999

Good catch. The point remains the same however, BMW upped the comp package to have more than the B6 - which makes sense.

It's possible the 591 is a mistake. The BMW USA site says 600 everywhere except The full specs. But the ALPINA site shows 600 even on the full specs. The BMW site has some other outdated data as well that is from the 2015.

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by djsaad1

It's possible the 591 is a mistake. The BMW USA site says 600 everywhere except The full specs. But the ALPINA site shows 600 even on the full specs. The BMW site has some other outdated data as well that is from the 2015.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/03/27/a...ion-50-models/
No no mistake 591 hp.

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by MCarsFan

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/03/27/a...ion-50-models/
No no mistake 591 hp.

That isn't the U.S version, this is.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/02/12/2...oupe-official/

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Worry free stock hp.
Stock is stock. Once you start tuning, it's just a matter of how much you want to spend.....
Flame suit on :-)

I agree, if you start messing with intakes and downpipes as well as exhausts..but..the remap alone..not expensive.

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by djsaad1

That isn't the U.S version, this is.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/02/12/2...oupe-official/

Isn't one just an x-drive version? Anyway over 200mph
Impressive.

[m5sdse63]

Originally Posted by MrSugarSkulls

Because I can? What's it to you?

If I lived near a track I would, but I don't. So you think because I don't track my vehicle I shouldn't own one as a daily driver? I have a busy schedule as it is, and unfortunately what I do for a living has nothing to do with cars so it's not like I would have a reason to trek out to one- most 26 year olds can't afford this kind of vehicle on their own.
It's always been my dream to own an M and now that's possible.

[doug_999]

Originally Posted by djsaad1

That isn't the U.S version, this is.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/02/12/2...oupe-official/

They did say preliminary - I actually do believe it ended up being 591 now and was not from a conversion.... see below

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

That's the misunderstanding of unit conversions. B6 was announced as 600 PS (metric horsepower) which is equal to 591 HP (international horse power)

Hmmm, I went to a site and 591 Metric actually converts down to 582 Did I get that wrong?

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by doug_999

They did say preliminary - I actually do believe it ended up being 591 now and was not from a conversion.... see below



Hmmm, I went to a site and 591 Metric actually converts down to 582 Did I get that wrong?

Yeah that's why the 591 doesn't make much sense, they might have confused it with the 50 edition. Which makes some sense because even the wheels are listed wrong on the full specs on the bmw usa website.

Actually the conversion is correct, 591 is 600. But it's still odd they advertise the 50 edition at 591 and the gran coupe non 50 at 600

[templarklimek]

Gents,

Just tried to order one with my SA. For those of you who are interested. NO MANUAL TRANNY OPTION!

WTF BMW?? Why can u offer the manual on all M6 builds but not this! My SA is going to make some calls Monday. BMW thinks us manual driver will simply bend over and take what they offer to us. NO, I will simply stop buying their sports car and go to someone who still wants my business.

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by templarklimek

Gents,

Just tried to order one with my SA. For those of you who are interested. NO MANUAL TRANNY OPTION!

WTF BMW?? Why can u offer the manual on all M6 builds but not this! My SA is going to make some calls Monday. BMW thinks us manual driver will simply bend over and take what they offer to us. NO, I will simply stop buying their sports car and go to someone who still wants my business.

Some other member brought this to our attention a few weeks ago.

It truly is a mystery as to why the transmission makes a difference.

Rumors had circulated since early this year that us MT enthusiasts would be left out, one of the biggest reasons I put my order in in March.

If you really want the m6 in a MT, do it- you'll love it (I think the only other car with as much stock power as ours is the r8 v10) but that's as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong)

It's a blast driving it with a MT, and as mentioned before, if you live in the city- what's the extra horse power really going to do? As mentioned, if you tune it- the "stock" numbers go out the window, with or without the comp package.

And personally- I preferred the non comp steering in sport+ :

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by djsaad1

It's possible the 591 is a mistake. The BMW USA site says 600 everywhere except The full specs. But the ALPINA site shows 600 even on the full specs. The BMW site has some other outdated data as well that is from the 2015.

Originally Posted by MCarsFan

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/03/27/a...ion-50-models/
No no mistake 591 hp.

Originally Posted by djsaad1

That isn't the U.S version, this is.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/02/12/2...oupe-official/

Originally Posted by doug_999

They did say preliminary - I actually do believe it ended up being 591 now and was not from a conversion.... see below



Hmmm, I went to a site and 591 Metric actually converts down to 582 Did I get that wrong?

Originally Posted by djsaad1

Yeah that's why the 591 doesn't make much sense, they might have confused it with the 50 edition. Which makes some sense because even the wheels are listed wrong on the full specs on the bmw usa website.

Actually the conversion is correct, 591 is 600. But it's still odd they advertise the 50 edition at 591 and the gran coupe non 50 at 600

Guys, these are all either marketing trick or typo.
The fact is Aplina B6 is announced as 441KW which is 600 PS (metric hours power) and is called hours power in Europe referring to their metric HP. In UK in order to prevent confusion they use bhp (brake hours power) term which is equal to US HP (or international hours power). So Alpina B6 has 600 ps or 591 HP (591 bhp). I bet even the 2016 M6 CP is rated (actually under-rated ) to 600 ps (and not 600 HP) the same as 30 Jahre M5. All the same... and there is no difference between European version and US version.
Alpina B6 specification (Alpina website) <----- see this

Do not rely on BMWNA website. There are so many mistakes on this website. For long time they were mentioning run-flat tires for M5/M6 (and still for M6) while non of current M cars (M3/M4/M5/M6) are coming with run-flat tires due to weight saving (run-flat tires are heavy) and instead M cars are equipped with tubeless tires and mobility (since there is no spare tire available).

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Guys, these are all either marketing trick or typo.
The fact is Aplina B6 is announced as 441KW which is 600 PS (metric hours power) and is called hours power in Europe referring to their metric HP. In UK in order to prevent confusion they use bhp (brake hours power) term which is equal to US HP (or international hours power). So Alpina B6 has 600 ps or 591 HP (591 bhp). I bet even the 2016 M6 CP is rated (actually under-rated ) to 600 ps (and not 600 HP) the same as 30 Jahre M5. All the same... and there is no difference between European version and US version.
Alpina B6 specification (Alpina website) <----- see this

Do not rely on BMWNA website. There are so many mistakes on this website. For long time they were mentioning run-flat tires for M5/M6 (and still for M6) while non of current M cars (M3/M4/M5/M6) are coming with run-flat tires due to weight saving (run-flat tires are heavy) and instead M cars are equipped with tubeless tires and mobility (since there is no spare tire available).

That makes sense, thanks

[MCarsFan]

Ah! Yes bhp..

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

They're ALL fast if ya ask me!

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by MrSugarSkulls

They're ALL fast if ya ask me!

If you gave me a car with 500HP and told me it was 700HP, I would probably never be able to tell or even care. But it is cooler to say your car is 600hp instead of 591.