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      09-28-2013, 10:36 PM   #23
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With all of Audi's electrical and other problems that plague the new cars, it would be the last of the three I would buy on that alone.
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      09-28-2013, 10:43 PM   #24
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Once again, M cars no longer the clear winner. Will be interesting with the new M3/M4, which attempts to address M5/M6 shortcomings.
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      09-28-2013, 11:09 PM   #25
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C/D zero to sixty times are ridiculous!
Yup I find it hard to believe them. Seriously, 0-60 in 3.2s for the CLS? Quite impressive, for all of them actually!
+1 Either they all got "press cars" or they used 20 ft. of rollout. Hard to buy these 0-60 times
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      09-28-2013, 11:14 PM   #26
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For me, M6GC > ClS63> RS7.
Even thinking about trade in my 650GC for a M6 GC now. Just too beautiful to be true.
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      09-29-2013, 12:53 AM   #27
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It won based on aesthetics (fit and finish).
What aesthetics? The Audi rear end looks like an elephant sat on its trunk?!? On a serious note, as an M6 driver the worry is BMW has slipped on the dynamics side which is their brands core selling point. They really have to work on the traction off line and weight which effects the handling. I love the car, but can't help feeling they cruised through its R&D.
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      09-29-2013, 02:28 AM   #28
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Where did they get the BMW Horsepower number? Everything I've seen says 560, not 552? Not a big difference, but where did that come from? The BMW lost on subjective opinions of the writers and editor. We got dinged for rear seat comfort, at least the GC seats 5, CLS seats 4. Both the Benz and Audi are all wheel drive, I don't believe the M6's 0-60, unless they put some sticky tires on her.
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      09-29-2013, 02:37 AM   #29
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Where did they get the BMW Horsepower number? Everything I've seen says 560, not 552? Not a big difference, but where did that come from? The BMW lost on subjective opinions of the writers and editor. We got dinged for rear seat comfort, at least the GC seats 5, CLS seats 4. Both the Benz and Audi are all wheel drive, I don't believe the M6's 0-60, unless they put some sticky tires on her.
it's just different unit of measurement for horsepower

412kW = 552HP = 560PS
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      09-29-2013, 02:45 AM   #30
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it's just different unit of measurement for horsepower

412kW = 552HP = 560PS
412kw x 1.36 = 560.32 HP

PS x 1.05 = HP

But 412 Audi kw = 412 BMW kw = 560.32 hp
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      09-29-2013, 03:52 AM   #31
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412kw x 1.36 = 560.32 HP

PS x 1.05 = HP

But 412 Audi kw = 412 BMW kw = 560.32 hp
1kw = 1.3410HP = 1.3596PS

kw x 1.3410 = HP
412kw x 1.3410 = 552.492HP

kw x 1.3596 = PS
412kw x 1.3596 = 560.1552PS

check the unit converter: http://locost7.info/converter.php


not sure about the rs7, if it is also 412kw, then CAD must made a big mistake or they are just biased

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      09-29-2013, 05:18 AM   #32
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Once again, M cars no longer the clear winner. Will be interesting with the new M3/M4, which attempts to address M5/M6 shortcomings.
What are you talking about ? The M6 GC had the highest trap speed , was fastest from a roll , and was only .1 sec slower despite not having AWD . They gave it 10/10 for steering and it raped the RS7 and The Benz in the slalom course.
. On top of that it's the lightest and the best looking car as well .
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      09-29-2013, 08:39 AM   #33
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M6 GC all the way
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      09-29-2013, 08:49 AM   #34
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I think they need a math editor...their first category doesn't add up to 100 possible points, it adds up to 99. Small potatoes, I know.

I'd take the GC any day, I prefer the styling so much more over the others.
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      09-29-2013, 09:06 AM   #35
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the RS7 is definitely the best looking and most interesting car in this comparison----but the M6 isn't far behind. The CLS is totally outclassed here.

The exterior and interior attention to detail in the RS7 is really pretty remarkable, and the design is totally unique; as compared to any other Audi OR to any other car on the market for that matter. The A7/S7/RS7 brought supercar-looks to the sedan market.

that 4L V8 turbo is a MONSTER as well.
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      09-29-2013, 10:54 AM   #36
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This sort of reminds me of the big motorcycle shootouts. All the numbers are so similar, that in real life it seriously just doesn't matter. Get the car that pulls at your heartstrings more than the others. Not one of these 3 is a bad choice, and that's a gross understatement.
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      09-29-2013, 11:02 AM   #37
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Give me the RS7 and CLS over the M6 anyday. At that price point and given the fact that these are GT cars, the AWD on those cars is a must have for me.
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      09-29-2013, 11:25 AM   #38
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C/D zero to sixty times are ridiculous!
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      09-29-2013, 11:56 AM   #39
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I dont understand when people rave about the audi interior. Yeah it looks nice but have you messed with any of the buttons? They feel like cheap plastic and make such a loud clicking noise its almost unbearable lol.
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This sort of reminds me of the big motorcycle shootouts. All the numbers are so similar, that in real life it seriously just doesn't matter. Get the car that pulls at your heartstrings more than the others. Not one of these 3 is a bad choice, and that's a gross understatement.
+1000
Who buys these cars for performance anyways. If anything I want to see half mile to a mile drag race because all these cars are just for bullying the hwy (autobahn).
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      09-29-2013, 01:22 PM   #41
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CLS63 or RS7 for me. Not to mention the M6 is $20k more than the Merc and $15k more than the RS7, while being inferior or equal in most categories.
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CLS63 or RS7 for me. Not to mention the M6 is $20k more than the Merc and $15k more than the RS7, while being inferior or equal in most categories.
It was superior in every performance category both subjective and objective including steering feel , slalom speed , rolling start and trap speed . And it only lost by .1 sec on the quarter mile despite being rear wheel drive . You guys are smoking crack .
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      09-29-2013, 02:02 PM   #43
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This is B-S!!!
How do you rate "Interior & Exterior" Style based on a 0-10 sacle???
This is a total personal taste issue...I NEVER liked Audi because of its awful interior design!!! And how in the world did Audi's fugly rear design became better than 6's sleek style and design???!!!
And am I understanding that the interior design of Audi rates higher than M6??!!!
How can these 2 be a parameter for rating>>> ?!!!
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The grand coupe is clearly the better looking.
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I dont understand when people rave about the audi interior. Yeah it looks nice but have you messed with any of the buttons? They feel like cheap plastic and make such a loud clicking noise its almost unbearable lol.
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