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      01-17-2018, 01:24 PM   #111
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a lot of the better valued cars got scooped up in the last week. List updated. No new cars added, just some reshuffling and updating of pricing. I had to move someone into the #4 slot, so I elected an indie dealer car that's been posted for a good 2 months.

Holler at me if you ended up buying from my lists! (or I'm going to think no one cares, and I'll just stop updating this)
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great site

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amazing source for information in this thread, could one of you or all shed some light on this car in the link (two links since first did not have price)? is the car priced well or high? What do you guys think of the color / options? look forward to all the feedback. thanks

https://motorwerks.crmsuite.com/broc...daa29.66055357

https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...6/2016-bmw-m6/
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hi guys,


amazing source for information in this thread, could one of you or all shed some light on this car in the link (two links since first did not have price)? is the car priced well or high? What do you guys think of the color / options? look forward to all the feedback. thanks

https://motorwerks.crmsuite.com/broc...daa29.66055357

https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...6/2016-bmw-m6/
Price seems high especially since no CP.
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https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...8/2015-bmw-m6/

opinions on this car?
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Price seems high especially since no CP.
yes, Flying Ace pointed that out as well. thank you very much.
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      01-28-2018, 10:02 AM   #116
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I haven't updated my list for a while, with a price drop to $65 and others on my board having been sold, I think this one will be my new #1 for the week.
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here's 2014 and 2015 Auction average's

I looked up using a friends account -- so I'm only posting these auction results once -- for information purpose's only to see what dealers are paying on used/ trade-in's etc

I'm still considering an M6 GC myself
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here's 2014 and 2015 Auction average's

I looked up using a friends account -- so I'm only posting these auction results once -- for information purpose's only to see what dealers are paying on used/ trade-in's etc

I'm still considering an M6 GC myself

thanks for this! This confirms my pricing strategy as developed by P1et .

The rule of thumb is, if you buy from a dealer, you will have a:

1. EXCELLENT DEAL: if you pay $2,000 or less over a comparable auctioned car (or the auction average car)

2. GOOD DEAL: if you pay $2,000-$4,000 over

3. RETAIL DEAL: if you pay $4,000-$8000 over (this is the "no-haggle" "walk up" "listing price")

4. BENT OVER, PULLED PANTS DOWN, GRABBED YOUR ANKLES & BEEN SAVAGELY ABUSED: if you pay over $8000

Note: "comparable" means similar region (west coast, east coast, etc), miles, options, conditions.

Needless to say, no 2 cars and experiences are exactly the same. These aren't fungible items or like the stock market. Dealers also have to account for other overhead cost and sometimes have been sitting on inventory too long and have to make a number. Demand and irrational buyers can also bid the pricing up and certain cars have unique features that can fetch top dollar.

You can also use the auction numbers to gauge if a dealer is killing you on a trade. Generally, a good trade would be less than $1000 from auction pricing. Meaning the dealer is just trying to breakeven on the trade.
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I used Manheim and found out how much the dealer paid for my car. I bought it for 2k over cost.
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I used Manheim and found out how much the dealer paid for my car. I bought it for 2k over cost.
there you go. You got lucky and got a "fresh" car. I'm sure there's a sweet spot in their timeline where they're willing to sell it at $2k over their base cost. I don't think they'll sell it that cheap on day 1. I estimate, it costs them at least $1000 in just overhead to get that car in their showroom, prepped and to pay salaries and bills.

My Manheim source says the history clears out after 30 days or so. So if you have a car that's been sitting you wouldn't know the dealer's cost basis.

But this clearly shows $2k over auction is more than a fair price for a dealer to feed his kids.
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there you go. You got lucky and got a "fresh" car. I'm sure there's a sweet spot in their timeline where they're willing to sell it at $2k over their base cost. I don't think they'll sell it that cheap on day 1. I estimate, it costs them at least $1000 in just overhead to get that car in their showroom, prepped and to pay salaries and bills.

My Manheim source says the history clears out after 30 days or so. So if you have a car that's been sitting you wouldn't know the dealer's cost basis.

But this clearly shows $2k over auction is more than a fair price for a dealer to feed his kids.
Salottox5m thanks for the '14 & '15 #'s. Very helpful, but curious to see if you could post up '16 & '17 numbers. That would be a huge help! Or if anyone on the forum can for that instance.

Thank you in advance.
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a lot of the better valued cars got scooped up in the last week. List updated. No new cars added, just some reshuffling and updating of pricing. I had to move someone into the #4 slot, so I elected an indie dealer car that's been posted for a good 2 months.

Holler at me if you ended up buying from my lists! (or I'm going to think no one cares, and I'll just stop updating this)
Keep updating but where is the White on SO!!!
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      02-09-2018, 11:25 PM   #123
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Keep updating but where is the White on SO!!!
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Keep this thread going and updating the cars -- I look at this weekly!

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a lot of the better valued cars got scooped up in the last week. List updated. No new cars added, just some reshuffling and updating of pricing. I had to move someone into the #4 slot, so I elected an indie dealer car that's been posted for a good 2 months.

Holler at me if you ended up buying from my lists! (or I'm going to think no one cares, and I'll just stop updating this)
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OK - attached should be the m6GC #'s for:

2014
2015
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2017

I hope this helps everyone!

ps -- I'm still hating on all you as I have a 2015 650x CG -- not the m6! lol
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alright guys, i'll keep this going...I'm looking to update this today...
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I agree. I'm really shooting for a Gran Coupé come next spring/summer and this thread would help in my search. At the latest, plz keep it going for two years
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For my old M3 brethren? Sure, I'll start it up again this week. I poked around last week, the listings were weak.
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