M6 Gran Coupe First Drive Reviews (Autocar, CAR, Edmunds)

[neversummer78]

Originally Posted by mlai

I came from 2 F10 550is and now a F06 650i and felt some of the comment against the F06 a bit unfair......

I admit that I changed to the F06 for vanity reasons initially, as it just looked way better than the now all-too-common F10. I paid the deposit before ever test driven the F06.....

So I was with all the comments that the F06 was nothing more skin deep changes versus the F10, and I was going to mod the F06 just like what I did with the F10: Springs (because of DHP), wheels, power, BBKs..... In fact, when I traded in the F10, I retained all these mods thinking I will need them on the F06......

Boy, was I so wrong! Before delivery of my F06 (first F06 650i delivery here), BMW gave me a test drive of a F06 640i in standard configuration (no DHP, no IAS nothing extra). I was expecting the ride to be like an F10 but ah well, free anyway. So I take the car on a straight uphill ramp and hill-side windy roads to test handling. The F10 550i, although not lacking in power, feels like a big car (or rather, a boat). Yes all the electronics can give you that pseudo pyschological feeling that the car is good in handling, but......

In real life on windy roads, you will feel the F10's size.

The F06 (even 640i without DHP/IAS and all the electronic gadgets) on the same windy roads handles miles better than the F10! I find myself gunning the corners like my M3 (well, close anyway) without fear that the car will slip in anyway and the throttle response was way sharper in the F06. And the F06 was in comfort mode (normal), and I drive the F10 in the same stretch using sport.......

And when braking, the stock F10 brakes feels to me that it can barely manage stopping the car, but the F06 (according to RealOEM, same brakes as F10), can stop on a dime, which surprised me very much.

And these changes are not psychological to myself. I had my brother-in-law who owns a F10 M5 drive my F06. He thinks that the M5 definitely have more power (+108hp is a lot) but the F06 is very close in handling, and that is a non-M F06. Can't say the same about non-M F10s. Also, he feels that the F06 feels a lot smaller in terms of driving feel vs the F10. We all know physically the F06 is a large car......

So to this date, I still have yet to put a single performance mod (well, I took off the power tune from the car) on my F06 650i and it is already better than my previous F10 550i with all the mods.......

So, to all that thinks the F06 is only a F10 with a different skin..... Please, go test drive a F10 and a F06 back to back and feel for yourself.

To me, after owning both the F10 and F06, the F10 is a luxury sedan wanting to be a sport car but not quite getting there. Yes you can mod it to give it loads of power, but can't majorly correct the handling deficiencies. The F06 IS A SPORT SEDAN. WHAT A BMW SHOULD FEEL LIKE.

I would expect similar differences between the F10 M5 and F10 M6. They may have similar power, but there are subtle but significant differences between the 2 chassis to make them handle very differently.......

+1

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by mlai

I would expect similar differences between the F10 M5 and F10 M6. They may have similar power, but there are subtle but significant differences between the 2 chassis to make them handle very differently.......

What you say is not true when it comes to the M Cars.

The 550i is tuned very differently to the 650iGC. However the M5 is tuned as a proper M Sports Car. If you read the article above, they say that from a feel perspective the M6GC felt more tuned towards luxury than sport in comparison with the M5.

This is the reason why after an F10 550i, I switched to an F10 M5 instead of an F06 650i.

However I am considering the F06 M6, not because it is sportier which it is not, but because it looks sportier.

[dsad1]

Really want to take one out for a test drive, I am yet to see a reason for me to get a m6 over a 650, but maybe if I drive it I will get the reasoning behind it. Actually, that's probably the reason I shouldn't test drive it.

[kgroschi]

Originally Posted by sparkyg

While I accept there is a place in the market for the M5. The M6 GC is a huge wate of sheet metal.

It offers no difference from the M5, costs more and will sell 1/10th the volume.

All this big talk of faster, lighter, pinnacle of design, blah blah is just rubbish.

Its fat, heavy, long and ugly. I challenge all the fanboys to lay down their cash and buy one first.

M5 is nicer car in ever way and is over $10 000 cheaper.

Is the M6 GC exclusive, I'll give you that.

A labotomy is pretty exclusive too.

BMW has lost their way and every new lost design coming out proves it. Next the 3GC, X4, 2 series, X7, M7 Series....

Sad for a car maker with such a great past of motorsport design and history. Its a great marketing company now, just like Apple....

The M6 GC is the most beautiful car BMW has ever built.

[mlai]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

What you say is not true when it comes to the M Cars.

The 550i is tuned very differently to the 650iGC. However the M5 is tuned as a proper M Sports Car. If you read the article above, they say that from a feel perspective the M6GC felt more tuned towards luxury than sport in comparison with the M5.

This is the reason why after an F10 550i, I switched to an F10 M5 instead of an F06 650i.

However I am considering the F06 M6, not because it is sportier which it is not, but because it looks sportier.

In that case, I patiently wait for you review of the F10 M5 and F06 M6 But given the choice and if money is not an issue, F06 M6 all the way!

All in all, I feel my F06 handles very close to my M3, which is quite something.......

[Rob///M5]

Coup

[Erich2142]

still, way too expensive.

[jettie1767]

Originally Posted by mlai

I came from 2 F10 550is and now a F06 650i and felt some of the comment against the F06 a bit unfair......

I admit that I changed to the F06 for vanity reasons initially, as it just looked way better than the now all-too-common F10. I paid the deposit before ever test driven the F06.....

So I was with all the comments that the F06 was nothing more skin deep changes versus the F10, and I was going to mod the F06 just like what I did with the F10: Springs (because of DHP), wheels, power, BBKs..... In fact, when I traded in the F10, I retained all these mods thinking I will need them on the F06......

Boy, was I so wrong! Before delivery of my F06 (first F06 650i delivery here), BMW gave me a test drive of a F06 640i in standard configuration (no DHP, no IAS nothing extra). I was expecting the ride to be like an F10 but ah well, free anyway. So I take the car on a straight uphill ramp and hill-side windy roads to test handling. The F10 550i, although not lacking in power, feels like a big car (or rather, a boat). Yes all the electronics can give you that pseudo pyschological feeling that the car is good in handling, but......

In real life on windy roads, you will feel the F10's size.

The F06 (even 640i without DHP/IAS and all the electronic gadgets) on the same windy roads handles miles better than the F10! I find myself gunning the corners like my M3 (well, close anyway) without fear that the car will slip in anyway and the throttle response was way sharper in the F06. And the F06 was in comfort mode (normal), and I drive the F10 in the same stretch using sport.......

And when braking, the stock F10 brakes feels to me that it can barely manage stopping the car, but the F06 (according to RealOEM, same brakes as F10), can stop on a dime, which surprised me very much.

And these changes are not psychological to myself. I had my brother-in-law who owns a F10 M5 drive my F06. He thinks that the M5 definitely have more power (+108hp is a lot) but the F06 is very close in handling, and that is a non-M F06. Can't say the same about non-M F10s. Also, he feels that the F06 feels a lot smaller in terms of driving feel vs the F10. We all know physically the F06 is a large car......

So to this date, I still have yet to put a single performance mod (well, I took off the power tune from the car) on my F06 650i and it is already better than my previous F10 550i with all the mods.......

So, to all that thinks the F06 is only a F10 with a different skin..... Please, go test drive a F10 and a F06 back to back and feel for yourself.

To me, after owning both the F10 and F06, the F10 is a luxury sedan wanting to be a sport car but not quite getting there. Yes you can mod it to give it loads of power, but can't majorly correct the handling deficiencies. The F06 IS A SPORT SEDAN. WHAT A BMW SHOULD FEEL LIKE.

I would expect similar differences between the F10 M5 and F10 M6. They may have similar power, but there are subtle but significant differences between the 2 chassis to make them handle very differently.......

Totally agree! I originally had an F10 535 then an F12 650 and finally an F12 M6 all within a year's time. Each car drove better than the one before it. Now, I'm almost a year into my F12 M6 and loving it!

[IMG]

Great looking car !

[gragi]

Originally Posted by e92miami

Not that a M buyer is looking at conserving fuel but "Economy 28.5mpg (combined)" is a total joke or they think we are all gullible.

I agree 100%, unles they are using british gallons. I can barely get 22mpg combined on my 535

[Whostheboss]

Originally Posted by mlai

I came from 2 F10 550is and now a F06 650i and felt some of the comment against the F06 a bit unfair......

I admit that I changed to the F06 for vanity reasons initially, as it just looked way better than the now all-too-common F10. I paid the deposit before ever test driven the F06.....

So I was with all the comments that the F06 was nothing more skin deep changes versus the F10, and I was going to mod the F06 just like what I did with the F10: Springs (because of DHP), wheels, power, BBKs..... In fact, when I traded in the F10, I retained all these mods thinking I will need them on the F06......

Boy, was I so wrong! Before delivery of my F06 (first F06 650i delivery here), BMW gave me a test drive of a F06 640i in standard configuration (no DHP, no IAS nothing extra). I was expecting the ride to be like an F10 but ah well, free anyway. So I take the car on a straight uphill ramp and hill-side windy roads to test handling. The F10 550i, although not lacking in power, feels like a big car (or rather, a boat). Yes all the electronics can give you that pseudo pyschological feeling that the car is good in handling, but......

In real life on windy roads, you will feel the F10's size.

The F06 (even 640i without DHP/IAS and all the electronic gadgets) on the same windy roads handles miles better than the F10! I find myself gunning the corners like my M3 (well, close anyway) without fear that the car will slip in anyway and the throttle response was way sharper in the F06. And the F06 was in comfort mode (normal), and I drive the F10 in the same stretch using sport.......

And when braking, the stock F10 brakes feels to me that it can barely manage stopping the car, but the F06 (according to RealOEM, same brakes as F10), can stop on a dime, which surprised me very much.

And these changes are not psychological to myself. I had my brother-in-law who owns a F10 M5 drive my F06. He thinks that the M5 definitely have more power (+108hp is a lot) but the F06 is very close in handling, and that is a non-M F06. Can't say the same about non-M F10s. Also, he feels that the F06 feels a lot smaller in terms of driving feel vs the F10. We all know physically the F06 is a large car......

So to this date, I still have yet to put a single performance mod (well, I took off the power tune from the car) on my F06 650i and it is already better than my previous F10 550i with all the mods.......

So, to all that thinks the F06 is only a F10 with a different skin..... Please, go test drive a F10 and a F06 back to back and feel for yourself.

To me, after owning both the F10 and F06, the F10 is a luxury sedan wanting to be a sport car but not quite getting there. Yes you can mod it to give it loads of power, but can't majorly correct the handling deficiencies. The F06 IS A SPORT SEDAN. WHAT A BMW SHOULD FEEL LIKE.

I would expect similar differences between the F10 M5 and F10 M6. They may have similar power, but there are subtle but significant differences between the 2 chassis to make them handle very differently.......

Are you gonna get th M6 Grand coupe?

[bimmerjph]

Originally Posted by gragi

I agree 100%, unles they are using british gallons. I can barely get 22mpg combined on my 535

That is progress though, because thats what I get in my 325i. Your car is much heavier and has a Clydesdale more of horsepower, yet you get the slightly better than I do. Granted, I drive like a pissed off teenager though.

[mlai]

Originally Posted by Whostheboss

Are you gonna get th M6 Grand coupe?

Nope.... Just got my F06 last october! And I am very content with it for the local road conditions...... I have my M3 for more spirited runs......

[Jty421]

Originally Posted by Theride

i wold get the GC over the 5 series. i like the design better.

+1

[LOUM6GC]

Well, I just fell in love with the Gran Coupe. At first I decided to get the bottom of the class, the 640, then I decided I wanted xdrive, so I decided to get the 650xi......then, I said, what the hell......since it's my very first BMW and all, why not go all out and get an M6 Gran Coupe. Before making that final decision, I decided to go and test drive a "regular" M6 coupe...........turns out many BMW dealerships rather NOT let you test drive their M6.......but I found one that did in Long Island........I must say, the experience of test driving the M6 Coupe was pretty sweet.........so I decided, screw it....i'm getting an M6.......I ordered it a few weeks ago.......the sales manager tells me that I should have the car by mid to late June, 2013.....I can hardly wait........

[nugent]

I saw a 650 gc and I agree the flatness of the roofline does make the car look sleeker. the front end looked way to long though. overall, I think to have a big car that only comfortably seats 4 and that for all intents and purposes has the same performance as something $20k cheaper doesn't make sense.

[mlai]

Originally Posted by nugent

I saw a 650 gc and I agree the flatness of the roofline does make the car look sleeker. the front end looked way to long though. overall, I think to have a big car that only comfortably seats 4 and that for all intents and purposes has the same performance as something $20k cheaper doesn't make sense.

Economical sense? Probably not. But the same logic also applies to Porsche, Benz..... Etc. These cars are for different market segments and comparing them across segments will almost always result in "does not make sense" feelings.

But most still sell quite well. And it is this does not make sense feeling that makes a car more rare. The F10 makes sense for the masses. Thus the F10 is everywhere......

[dreamspeed]

Originally Posted by Whostheboss

I agree with you in the part about BMW releasing way too many models. That saddens me as well.

But i have to argue with you on the 6GC being a waste of sheet metal. Yea the car doesn't offer much more from a 5'er but it's the uniqueness that counts. 1/10th the sale volume?...That's exactly what BMW and potential buyers want. A car that is rare.

It's a nice car no doubt but personally I'd just get a M5

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by neversummer78

+1

Um neither of yours were an ///m car and the feel would be gobs different. So no, they might not feel the same.

[mlai]

Originally Posted by pkim1079

Um neither of yours were an ///m car and the feel would be gobs different. So no, they might not feel the same.

My Brother-in-law's is the F10 M5 and he felt the same. And I have an M3 so I sort of knows what an M feels like.......

Unless you are saying the F10 M5 and the E93 M3s are not ///m cars.......

[sparkyg]

Well I will say the M6GC looks are polarizing. It seems people love it or not so much.

I am not so much.

Does anyone look at the extra $10k price tag and ask where is it? Or is everyone here leasing?

Buying an M car is expensive enough, but at some point dont people begin to ask "Thats alot of effin money for an M5 with a fancy body...."

[mlai]

Originally Posted by sparkyg

Well I will say the M6GC looks are polarizing. It seems people love it or not so much.

I am not so much.

Does anyone look at the extra $10k price tag and ask where is it? Or is everyone here leasing?

Buying an M car is expensive enough, but at some point dont people begin to ask "Thats alot of effin money for an M5 with a fancy body...."

Right in that. Unless it is not only an M5 with a fancy body. Only time will tell....