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      06-04-2012, 12:33 AM   #23
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The F12/13 M6 is one of the best looking cars i've ever seen in my life
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"strongest M car line up yet"

We went from lightweight (relatively) roadsters and coupes with raw inline-6 motors and 6-spd transmissions to oversized turbo charged v8 sedans and SUV's with automatic transmissions.

M3 is on it's last year... the only M cars I see are the M5, M6, X5M, X6M.

M is definitely not about motorsports anymore, it's about selling fancy exclusive marketing badges to the rich... not that I wouldn't be doing the same if I was running the business but it's hard to get excited about cars as such.

I can only hope the next M3 will bring some excitement back to the brand.
M cars nowadays are for a wider audience and for everyday use!

A true M, Motorsport car like the GTS does nobody want to drive everyday, it's a fun car like a GT3.

So in case to sell an amount of cars, you need to sell what your audience wants!
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      06-04-2012, 07:36 PM   #26
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Any word on a manual M6 for the US?
I heard that its coming - not 100% confirmed but definitely on the road map.
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      06-04-2012, 10:18 PM   #27
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I heard that its coming - not 100% confirmed but definitely on the road map.
Good to hear, keeping fingers crossed. It will give it an additional competitive advantage as barely any of its GT-class rivals would offer that (AMG/RS 5/Maserati, etc.)
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M is in a tough position. It has to compete with AMG, Audi RS (or, it seems even S models if you read/trust C&D), etc. while trying to maintain aconnection with motorsport and it's "classic" customers (low weight, manual gear box, hydraulic steering, etc.).

If M is not profitable, it will not exist. That would be bad. I personally hope BMW sells enough heavy, powerful cars that it is able to throw a bone to us once in a while...like for example, the Z4M coupe or the 1M coupe.

My lineup seems (to me) the best of modern M cars, but I'm really looking forward to the F80 M3 or (here's hoping) M2.
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      06-05-2012, 12:16 AM   #29
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M is in a tough position. It has to compete with AMG, Audi RS (or, it seems even S models if you read/trust C&D), etc. while trying to maintain aconnection with motorsport and it's "classic" customers (low weight, manual gear box, hydraulic steering, etc.).

If M is not profitable, it will not exist. That would be bad. I personally hope BMW sells enough heavy, powerful cars that it is able to throw a bone to us once in a while...like for example, the Z4M coupe or the 1M coupe.

My lineup seems (to me) the best of modern M cars, but I'm really looking forward to the F80 M3 or (here's hoping) M2.
Agreed its all about the business case and add to that the fact that ///M only represents 2% of the entire BMW portfolio (this is what I was told) and we are talking small numbers here.
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Agreed its all about the business case and add to that the fact that ///M only represents 2% of the entire BMW portfolio (this is what I was told) and we are talking small numbers here.
M cars should be halo cars-- not a lot of volume, but attract people the brand as a whole.
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