Fuel Pumping Autostop driving me crazy

chador · 10-28-2017, 02:32 PM

I swear I am not insane, but I have had significant issues with my two different M6's and pumping fuel. The autostop keeps prematurely activating. Even when I hold it firmly, it will still stop for no reason. I had a 2014 M6, brand new for 3 years and it was almost a weekly issue. Now I have a 2017 M6 Gran Coupe, and its problem is worse. I haven't been able to get a full fill ever because I get frustrated and just settle with a half tank of gas. I have tried every gas station in town (Los Angeles) problem is the same. My wife's 4 series 2017 has no such issue.

I took the car in for service and mentioned the problem and of course, I get it back with the "unable to replicate the problem" and nothing was solved.

Am I crazy or has anyone else had a similar issue?

BMWDriverX · 10-28-2017, 04:13 PM

My M6 is not having this issue, but a previous car of mine did. The only thing that helped was when I put the pump into the tank I would turn the pump clockwise by the handle, leave it to fill like that at an angle and it would fill the tank full. If I put it in straight, it would set off that autostop a couple of times per gallon.

Evil Derboy · 10-28-2017, 05:10 PM

Had that issue with a previous car (Audi TT). Turned out the fuel filler neck installed was for the wrong car. Audi fixed it under warranty.

arucano · 10-28-2017, 10:57 PM

I have the same problem at some stations while others work fine. No solution....

M6-Coupe · 10-29-2017, 01:12 AM

I had this issue with 2 650i ad M6... all the same issue and the only way to fix it was to lift and hold the pump nozzle a little bit ...

mjposner · 10-29-2017, 07:48 AM

Ditto for me, it depends on angle of pump[ handle, station, etc.

DRKNTM6 · 10-29-2017, 02:20 PM

Happens intermittently to my 2014 too. I've kind of given up and just hold it now

1MEANM6 · 10-29-2017, 09:39 PM

My 2014 M6 GC only does that once in a while

tab · 10-30-2017, 07:46 AM

My 2016 M6 GC does it, and I think it helps to cock it to the side, pump hose down at 8:00 position or something. That doesn't always work, but it's better. You're not crazy. Well, you might be, but not about this.

XxTORONTOxX · 10-30-2017, 12:36 PM

The only issue is that your are running the tank to empty, and theres are pressure in the tank causing it to do that. Start filling up at 1/4 tank problem solved trust me

dentaltech · 10-30-2017, 07:59 PM

invert the gas pump nozzle, works perfectly

arucano · 10-30-2017, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxTORONTOxX

The only issue is that your are running the tank to empty, and theres are pressure in the tank causing it to do that. Start filling up at 1/4 tank problem solved trust me

I never run below a quarter but still have the problem. It appears to get worse once the tank hits half.

BMWDriverX · 10-31-2017, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxTORONTOxX

The only issue is that your are running the tank to empty, and theres are pressure in the tank causing it to do that. Start filling up at 1/4 tank problem solved trust me

Wrong, Sad.

TT BT · 11-10-2017, 09:51 AM

i had the same problem on my 2013 m6, took it to BMW ,it was still under warranty and they replaced the fuel tank , They said its common problem .I can look for the paper at home if you want and tell you exactly what they wrote .

BadSeed · 12-25-2018, 09:39 AM

So I'm not the only one dealing with this nonsense. Been going to the same 2 Chevron stations for 10+ yrs. Only the M6 has given me this problem & I have tried all the pumps at those 2 stations. Though my car is still under warranty, my concern is the dealership might damage some of my mods (has happened many times) if they replace the fuel tank. Thanks for posting suggestions! Will give them a shot....

Kkgy79 · 12-25-2018, 11:03 AM

I had same issue. Wecant leave the gas handle alone. I think angle issue
Just lift up gas handle for making 90 degree to the hole then no problem until full gas tank. Thats what i found how to fill up the gas.
I hope it help u.

mgmarsh39 · 12-25-2018, 11:21 AM

Yep same problem. Similar to what someone already mentioned just pull the nosel out slightly and it usually fills.

BadSeed · 12-25-2018, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kkgy79

I had same issue. Wecant leave the gas handle alone. I think angle issue
Just lift up gas handle for making 90 degree to the hole then no problem until full gas tank. Thats what i found how to fill up the gas.
I hope it help u.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgmarsh39

Yep same problem. Similar to what someone already mentioned just pull the nosel out slightly and it usually fills.

Thanks for the suggestions, will try them out. Can't take a leak & fill up at the same time. Takes the fun away from

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Chesie · 12-25-2018, 07:58 PM

I have noticed the same issue with my ‘19 M6 GC. Only car I have ever had that did this, but it has repeatedly done so with each trip to the gas station. I’m somewhat comforted to know the problem is a common one. I’ll try some of the hacks mentioned above.
Thanks,
Danny

evanescent03 · 12-25-2018, 08:15 PM

Might be time to fill cans or a barrel for home dispensing .... that would drive me nuts. I get pissed that I can't just set it and walk away, I have to keep it squeezed and fully seated. On our M6 and Yukon. If I had to settle for a half tank every time I'd go nuts.

BadSeed · 12-28-2018, 09:32 AM

Tried a few things & 1 finally worked.

1. inserting the pump all the way in (all up in her gut), pulling the handle downward as far as it will go then turning it clock wise or counter clockwise did not work for me unfortunately

2. inserting the pump & just holding it there I'm sure would have worked but I would then have to hold it & pump manually. Was determined to find a way to be able to walk away

3. inserted the pump but not jam it all the way (just enough), let its own weight tilt the handle down to hold itself in place & I was able to fill up w/o having to hold the pump. We'll see if I can replicate this in the future

Update: 01-05-19
Tried #3 above again & was able to fill up w/o any issues.

xsb00st · 12-28-2018, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadSeed

Tried a few things & 1 finally worked.

1. inserting the pump all the way in (all up in her gut), pulling the handle downward as far as it will go then turning it clock wise or counter clockwise did not work for me unfortunately

2. inserting the pump & just holding it there I'm sure would have worked but I would then have to hold it & pump manually. Was determined to find a way to be able to walk away

3. inserted the pump but not jam it all the way (just enough), let its own weight tilt the handle down to hold itself in place & I was able to fill up w/o having to hold the pump. We'll see if I can replicate this in the future

#3 works for me as well.

10-28-2017, 02:32 PM	#1
chador Private 67 Rep 58 Posts Drives: BMW M8 GC Competition 2020 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Fuel Pumping Autostop driving me crazy I swear I am not insane, but I have had significant issues with my two different M6's and pumping fuel. The autostop keeps prematurely activating. Even when I hold it firmly, it will still stop for no reason. I had a 2014 M6, brand new for 3 years and it was almost a weekly issue. Now I have a 2017 M6 Gran Coupe, and its problem is worse. I haven't been able to get a full fill ever because I get frustrated and just settle with a half tank of gas. I have tried every gas station in town (Los Angeles) problem is the same. My wife's 4 series 2017 has no such issue. I took the car in for service and mentioned the problem and of course, I get it back with the "unable to replicate the problem" and nothing was solved. Am I crazy or has anyone else had a similar issue?
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10-28-2017, 04:13 PM	#2
BMWDriverX Captain 366 Rep 804 Posts Drives: G12 750i X-Drive Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	My M6 is not having this issue, but a previous car of mine did. The only thing that helped was when I put the pump into the tank I would turn the pump clockwise by the handle, leave it to fill like that at an angle and it would fill the tank full. If I put it in straight, it would set off that autostop a couple of times per gallon.
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arucano Captain 251 Rep 628 Posts Drives: 2014 M6 Grand Coupe CP Join Date: May 2017 Location: Kingwood TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW M6 GC [10.00]	I have the same problem at some stations while others work fine. No solution.... __________________ F06 M6 Grand Coupe CP Sapphire Black Metallic The drive is the destination
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10-29-2017, 01:12 AM	#5
M6-Coupe Major General 1125 Rep 6,066 Posts Drives: F92 M8 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Bay area iTrader: (0)	I had this issue with 2 650i ad M6... all the same issue and the only way to fix it was to lift and hold the pump nozzle a little bit ... __________________ Current : 2020 F92 Black Sapphire M8 - ZF8 Gone : 2018 F80 Mineral Gray M3 - 6MT Gone : 2016 F82 Austin Yellow M4 - 6MT Gone : 2013 F13 Sakhir Orange M6 -7DCT Gone: 2013 F13 Alpine White 650i -ZF8
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10-29-2017, 07:48 AM	#6
mjposner Brigadier General 898 Rep 3,071 Posts Drives: 2020 Z4 40i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Southwest Florida iTrader: (3)	Ditto for me, it depends on angle of pump[ handle, station, etc. __________________ Previous BMW: 16 M4, 13 M6; 14 M235i, 12 BMW M3; 11 BMW M3; 08 BMW M3; 08 BMW Z4M; 04 X3; 02 M3 Convertible; 02 M3; 00 M Roadster; 94 325 convertible; 92 325i Convertible; and 85 635csi My Car Photo Blog: http://carfisheye.blogspot.com/
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Evil Derboy Lieutenant 271 Rep 425 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: . iTrader: (0)	Had that issue with a previous car (Audi TT). Turned out the fuel filler neck installed was for the wrong car. Audi fixed it under warranty.
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10-29-2017, 02:20 PM	#7
DRKNTM6 Enlisted Member 16 Rep 45 Posts Drives: 2014 M6 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Man Jose, CA iTrader: (0)	Happens intermittently to my 2014 too. I've kind of given up and just hold it now
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10-29-2017, 09:39 PM	#8
1MEANM6 Private 29 Rep 76 Posts Drives: M6 GranCoupe Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	My 2014 M6 GC only does that once in a while
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10-30-2017, 07:46 AM	#9
tab Second Lieutenant 64 Rep 232 Posts Drives: 2016 M6 Gran Coupe MT Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M6 GC [10.00]	My 2016 M6 GC does it, and I think it helps to cock it to the side, pump hose down at 8:00 position or something. That doesn't always work, but it's better. You're not crazy. Well, you might be, but not about this.
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XxTORONTOxX Private 3 Rep 78 Posts Drives: BMW F13 M6 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Toronto ontario iTrader: (0)	The only issue is that your are running the tank to empty, and theres are pressure in the tank causing it to do that. Start filling up at 1/4 tank problem solved trust me
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10-30-2017, 07:59 PM	#11
dentaltech Private First Class 27 Rep 170 Posts Drives: 2013 M6 coupe Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: So Cal iTrader: (1)	invert the gas pump nozzle, works perfectly
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11-10-2017, 09:51 AM	#14
TT BT The cars we drive say a lot about us. 49 Rep 148 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M850i Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Chicago,IL iTrader: (0)	i had the same problem on my 2013 m6, took it to BMW ,it was still under warranty and they replaced the fuel tank , They said its common problem .I can look for the paper at home if you want and tell you exactly what they wrote . __________________ A bad day at the Racetrack beats a good day at the office
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12-25-2018, 09:39 AM	#15
BadSeed Second Lieutenant 158 Rep 269 Posts Drives: ///M6 GC Join Date: May 2015 Location: OC \| CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW M6 [0.00] 2010 BMW M5 [10.00]	So I'm not the only one dealing with this nonsense. Been going to the same 2 Chevron stations for 10+ yrs. Only the M6 has given me this problem & I have tried all the pumps at those 2 stations. Though my car is still under warranty, my concern is the dealership might damage some of my mods (has happened many times) if they replace the fuel tank. Thanks for posting suggestions! Will give them a shot....
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12-25-2018, 11:03 AM	#16
Kkgy79 Private First Class 12 Rep 131 Posts Drives: 2013 m5 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Usa iTrader: (0)	I had same issue. Wecant leave the gas handle alone. I think angle issue Just lift up gas handle for making 90 degree to the hole then no problem until full gas tank. Thats what i found how to fill up the gas. I hope it help u.
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12-25-2018, 11:21 AM	#17
mgmarsh39 First Lieutenant 253 Rep 355 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: DFW iTrader: (0)	Yep same problem. Similar to what someone already mentioned just pull the nosel out slightly and it usually fills.
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Chesie Private 47 Rep 66 Posts Drives: 2023 530i X-Drive Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Hope Mills, NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2021 BMW 540xi M-Sport [0.00]	I have noticed the same issue with my ‘19 M6 GC. Only car I have ever had that did this, but it has repeatedly done so with each trip to the gas station. I’m somewhat comforted to know the problem is a common one. I’ll try some of the hacks mentioned above. Thanks, Danny
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evanescent03 Lieutenant Colonel 1032 Rep 1,997 Posts Drives: '24 M3 CS; '22 GT4 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	Might be time to fill cans or a barrel for home dispensing .... that would drive me nuts. I get pissed that I can't just set it and walk away, I have to keep it squeezed and fully seated. On our M6 and Yukon. If I had to settle for a half tank every time I'd go nuts. __________________ Gone but not forgotten: '09 STi // '08 335i // '02 M3 // '11 335i // '15 M3 // '16 M3 // '16 Camaro SS // '16 Audi S3 // '18 Boxster 718S // '17 Camaro SS 1LE // '16 M6 GC CP
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12-28-2018, 09:32 AM	#21
BadSeed Second Lieutenant 158 Rep 269 Posts Drives: ///M6 GC Join Date: May 2015 Location: OC \| CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW M6 [0.00] 2010 BMW M5 [10.00]	Tried a few things & 1 finally worked. 1. inserting the pump all the way in (all up in her gut), pulling the handle downward as far as it will go then turning it clock wise or counter clockwise did not work for me unfortunately 2. inserting the pump & just holding it there I'm sure would have worked but I would then have to hold it & pump manually. Was determined to find a way to be able to walk away 3. inserted the pump but not jam it all the way (just enough), let its own weight tilt the handle down to hold itself in place & I was able to fill up w/o having to hold the pump. We'll see if I can replicate this in the future Update: 01-05-19 Tried #3 above again & was able to fill up w/o any issues. Last edited by BadSeed; 01-05-2019 at 07:51 AM..
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