WHAT?: Why is Sedan more expensive than Coupe?

[leejae1376]

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Why should GC be more expensive than Coupe?
(eg. should S class be more expensive than CL and SL?)

If GC was different/distinct than Coupe (not just 4 door), I may be ok with it, but in my opinion it just downgraded Coupe's value.

Also it's more expensive than 7-series. Huh?

Yes, Sedan costs more to build but what about 3 series Coupe vs. Sedan?
Obviously it's not about the cost but more of ... uhm... Prestige + Demand + ... Whatever the reason Coupe is more.

(a little background: I got into my first e39 6-series because all of my friends thought my 7-series was my father's. with 6-series I got the coupe + independent + prestige + exclusive... (whatever - it just felt good!) feel from BMW brand. Now with GC, something out of 5-series is expensiver than 7-series AND it's a 4-door. What the hell??)

With GC, I lost that "Exclusive", "Defined" and "Independent" feel like SL class - a class of its own. Now it's just an another series.

Anyone feel the same?

[m630]

I would say the reason is because BMW said so, nothing really more. I also think though, that they believe that this car will actually be more exclusive, or, very specific in its market so there will be less built.

The GC is actually different than the Coupe, its built on a different platform, taken from the 5er GT, so that also potentially adds to the cost to build.

In comparing to the 7er, its more sporty and exclusive in design, which is again why it is priced as it is. You get a more dynamic driving experience but with room for 4 (+1) passengers, as opposed to the 6ers 2 (+2) room.

I have no idea where you are going with saying that the Coupe is "devalued" because of the GC, since the GC is more expensive. I think you mean to say that you're pissed that you dont have the top dog so to speak, and thats just too bad, there's always something better than what you have unless you have the M6 version in terms of BMWs.

Also,what are you referring to as the e39 6er? what the hell is that? the e39 is a 5 series from 2 generations ago, so im not sure what car you say you have? Im going to go out on a limb and say that you are young because of the points you are raising and are trying to impress other young adults. The facts are, you're damn lucky to be driving any of these cars and just appreciate what you have, no one made your car an less special because there are other models that are similar in design, you dont have a ferrari or lambo, and even then, you wouldnt be the only one, so just try not to worry about those things and enjoy what you have, its very exclusive whether you actually know it or not.

I couldnt feel more opposite than you do, the 6er is no less exclusive because of the GC, and no less special, its not "just" another series, and you see very very few on the road. Its a BMW and its actually the flagship BMW and soon to be the flagship M, so in that light, you should appreciate that your 6er is closely related to the flagship

[leejae1376]

Hmmm... Point well taken.

(and thank you for your correction on e39. I meant e63/64 650)

However on the contrary to your note, instead of not being greatful to own 6er, I "think" I was referring to the fact that having 4 door version of 6er might possibly mean brining down the (so called) value or exclusivity of the brand.

And to the matter of fact i was just wondering if anyone else felt the same way. (in fact, i think some people DO agree - again it's just purely subjective matter. http://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=657584)

I dont think it gave a lead to pose my self as "spoiled" "young" person - btw do i still sound "young" from my context? :-)

If it upset you, dont be. It was mere opinion survey - nothing personal.

I respect your opinion and I thank you for it - that's all.

Last time i checked, this was owners lounge - a "friendly" one. :-)

[m630]

Originally Posted by leejae76

Hmmm... Point well taken.

(and thank you for your correction on e39. I meant e63/64 650)

However on the contrary to your note, instead of not being greatful to own 6er, I "think" I was referring to the fact that having 4 door version of 6er might possibly mean brining down the (so called) value or exclusivity of the brand.

And to the matter or fact i was just wondering if anyone else felt the same way. (in fact, i think some people DO agree - again it's just purely subjective matter. http://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=657584)

I dont think it gave a lead to pose my self as "spoiled" "young" person - btw do i still sound "young" from my context? :-)

If it upset you, dont be. It was mere opinion survey - nothing personal.

I respect your opinion and I thank you for it - that's all.

Last time i checked, this was owners lounge - a "friendly" one. :-)

was just playing with you, sometimes context is not possible in text....but trully, I think you should just appreciate what you have, and be thankful you can have it rather than worry if some thing else or some one else has something similar. THere is no reason you should feel any less special about your car, its an awesome machine, and its quite rare, and even if you do see a few more GCs around, they'll be rare too, and you should appreciate them, you never know, next time around you may just look to it as your next car.....

[Superspeed]

Originally Posted by m630

....but trully, I think you should just appreciate what you have, and be thankful you can have it rather than worry if some thing else or some one else has something similar. THere is no reason you should feel any less special about your car, its an awesome machine, and its quite rare, and even if you do see a few more GCs around, they'll be rare too, and you should appreciate them, you never know, next time around you may just look to it as your next car.....

That's the right spirit
As an enthusiast I feel only happy when I see somebody having a greater car than mine. How cool everytime I see a dreamcar!
If BMW launches an 8-series supercar I will feel the heart pump faster everytime I see it, not because my own car is degraded, but of pure joy.

[BMW269]

What are you talking about? The 6 Series GC is based on the 5 Series Sedan, whereas the 6 Series Coupé is based on a shortend 5 Series platform. The 5 Series GT is based on the 7 Series platform. At the end, both the 5 Series ans 7 Series share the same base platform, just like the 1 Series and 3 Series share theirs.

The 6 Series Coupé has 2 doors, and the 6 Series GranCoupé has 4 doors, sure it costs more.

[leejae1376]

I think you need to read the whole thread again. Everyone here knows 4 door costs more to build. (eg. Why is 3 coupe expensiver than 3 sedan?)

It's an open survey. We appreciate your thoughts but "4 door costs more" has been already covered.

Hope this helps.

[E90Fleet]

Also comes down to how many are built

Development and manufacturing costs have to be divided by expected production.
3 Series Sedan far outsells the 3 Series Coupe, so costs are spread over more cars, thus its cheaper per unit.

[Superspeed]

Within the same model line (like 6 series) building costs is only vaguely connected to sales price. It is more a matter of how the manufacturer wants to profile the specific model.
As we all know, a normal hierarchy ends with the coupe and convertible version. So when BMW aims this high with the GC price, it is my theory that presenting a direct competitor to the Panamera is more important than following the traditional "rules" in the model hierarchy.

[ATX78703]

Originally Posted by Levi

What are you talking about? The 6 Series GC is based on the 5 Series Sedan, whereas the 6 Series Coupé is based on a shortend 5 Series platform. The 5 Series GT is based on the 7 Series platform. At the end, both the 5 Series ans 7 Series share the same base platform, just like the 1 Series and 3 Series share theirs.

The 6 Series Coupé has 2 doors, and the 6 Series GranCoupé has 4 doors, sure it costs more.

+1
This is the most accurate rep of the whole platform thing. The 7er/5GT ride on the longest WB version, then the 5er/6GC on the med WB, then the 6er coupe on a shortened WB. Ultimately, what they've done with the 6GC is totally ramp up the interior/ exterior styling and std equip. To boot, the engines are higher output - I think the N65 drops 448hp/480 lb-ft and everybody suspects a bump on the M6GC also. So all those factors (plus I think they're expecting a high take rate on BMW individual pkgs on the GC) reflect the price bump.

[BMW269]

Usually convertibles cost more than coupés. Why then does the Cayman cost more than the Boxster? Same case here.

[leejae1376]

Originally Posted by Superspeed

Within the same model line (like 6 series) building costs is only vaguely connected to sales price. It is more a matter of how the manufacturer wants to profile the specific model.
As we all know, a normal hierarchy ends with the coupe and convertible version. So when BMW aims this high with the GC price, it is my theory that presenting a direct competitor to the Panamera is more important than following the traditional "rules" in the model hierarchy.

Interesting point. Never crossed my mind about gc being a competitor to a panamera (only thought of cls) - although it makes perfect sense related to pricing of gc. Hmm...

Thanks! :-)

[leejae1376]

Originally Posted by Levi

Usually convertibles cost more than coupés. Why then does the Cayman cost more than the Boxster? Same case here.

Are you asking why does x5 costs more than z4? I dont get it.

We're comparing gc and 6 (hence comparing to 3 coupe and 3 sedan)

No pun here. :-)

[southern6er22]

Originally Posted by PusheMeKuratz

Does anyone know why the 650i is over 200 pounds heavier then the 640i? I know it has a bigger engine but it cant be over 200 pounds heavier can it??

Is Nappa heavier than Dakota? lol

[stealth.pilot]

The 6 series is a 5 series Coupe. So in this case the Coupe is more expensive than the sedan, and the coupe-styled sedan is more expensive than the coupe.

[southern6er22]

Here's a thought... 6 coupe based off of 5er (just the hidden stuff, and only to a degree, not the luxury, design, etc.) and 6 GC is the same type of thing but with a 7 instead of a 5. Just a bigger coupe like the 7 is a bigger sedan. You still pay the coupe style premium - "I'm impractical and logically overpriced, but screw it, I'm gorgeous" - for the 6 coupe as most coupes are more than a 7 Series (mine was $8k more than the most expensive 7 on the lot, and I didn't even get the B&O, dynamic cruise, or night vision). The pricing was probably just one more way for BMW to say "this is a coupe, not a sedan" in a quantitative measurement.

[eldo33]

I never understood why the sedan is cheaper than the couple in 3 series, it's ridiculous. The pricing for the 6 series is correct though cuz 4 doors cost more to make.

[leejae1376]

Originally Posted by el_do33

I never understood why the sedan is cheaper than the couple in 3 series, it's ridiculous. The pricing for the 6 series is correct though cuz 4 doors cost more to make.

There is a reference to that logic in this thread by superspeed. Hope that helps.

[M6-4KIX]

Never owned a 4dr....... not old enough I guess. Coupes forever!!