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      02-18-2015, 02:43 PM   #1
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How is BMW preparing to go head to head with the new S Coupe?

Although I'm not a Mercedes fan, But I'm very interested to see how BMW will be buckling up to attack the S Coupe which seems to be capturing eyes...
The current 6 is by far out dated and not comparable IMO.
I think BMW needs to rethink the release date of its new 6 series fast!!!
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      02-18-2015, 10:08 PM   #2
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Huh? The S class and 6 series are not rivals (let alone a S63/S65). BTW, I would never spend $125k on a normal S550 coupe. I'll take the M6 over that any day of the week, thanks.
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I think the s coupe is in similar design with the 6 series with the fact that 6 series is 4 years behind and its looks more nicer than most cars in market now
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They don't play in the same price point. There is at least one other thread on this topic. That said, for much less money the 6 is one helluva bargain coupe by comparison to the S-class coupe.

I considered the MB recently as my next car (now going from 650i to M5), but it was just too big and expensive. By the time you put on a few "necessary" options you're looking at a $140k car and the deals just aren't there yet. For far less than that, as mj said, you could be in a loaded M6.

Unless BMW comes out with an 8 series (not i8) they are not competing in the same arena. Even a new 6 would not be an S class competitor.

I also do not agree that the 6 is outdated. In what way is the S class more technologically advanced? Perhaps a feature or two, but that's just a matter of price point again. And while I am a fan of the S coupe, it does look a little awkward from some angles in person. Especially the massive amount of sheet metal between the door edge and rear wheel arch - which is somewhat unavoidable if you want decent rear legroom in a 2 door without the doors themselves becoming unmanageably large.
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Huh? The S class and 6 series are not rivals (let alone a S63/S65). BTW, I would never spend $125k on a normal S550 coupe. I'll take the M6 over that any day of the week, thanks.
6 coupe is the ONLY car BMW has that goes toe to toe with this S Coupe unless you aware of any other BMW line up that we are not aware of?
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I think the s coupe is in similar design with the 6 series with the fact that 6 series is 4 years behind and its looks more nicer than most cars in market now
It was the nicest sport car...I agree...but as you mentioned it is 4-5 years old and is outdated IMO...this S Coupe is really the proof I think of how old the 6 is now...
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They don't play in the same price point. There is at least one other thread on this topic. That said, for much less money the 6 is one helluva bargain coupe by comparison to the S-class coupe.

I considered the MB recently as my next car (now going from 650i to M5), but it was just too big and expensive. By the time you put on a few "necessary" options you're looking at a $140k car and the deals just aren't there yet. For far less than that, as mj said, you could be in a loaded M6.

Unless BMW comes out with an 8 series (not i8) they are not competing in the same arena. Even a new 6 would not be an S class competitor.

I also do not agree that the 6 is outdated. In what way is the S class more technologically advanced? Perhaps a feature or two, but that's just a matter of price point again. And while I am a fan of the S coupe, it does look a little awkward from some angles in person. Especially the massive amount of sheet metal between the door edge and rear wheel arch - which is somewhat unavoidable if you want decent rear legroom in a 2 door without the doors themselves becoming unmanageably large.
Appreciate the comment...but based on your note, it clearly states that you would have gone with the S if the price was right?!
That already says the 6 is outdated and needs immediate rethinking...there isn't any other line up besides the 6 that would be alongside this S.
I agrre the S is in a higher bracket... but I never spoke about price point initially...I think the quality and luxury parts and pieces I see in this S coupe explains the price difference and why the 6 is lower...don't you think?
6 may be loaded correct but I think the overall quality still lags...
The design also in my opinion is outdated. Designs nowadays move fast...
When is the new 6 expected to hit the markets again?
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by the way, this the first MB I see (AFTER SOOOO MANY YEARS!!!) that I like the rear design...it is a combination of 6's sleek taillight design and the Porsche Panamera's curve...
and I LOVE the seats...
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Appreciate the comment...but based on your note, it clearly states that you would have gone with the S if the price was right?!
That already says the 6 is outdated and needs immediate rethinking...there isn't any other line up besides the 6 that would be alongside this S.
I agrre the S is in a higher bracket... but I never spoke about price point initially...I think the quality and luxury parts and pieces I see in this S coupe explains the price difference and why the 6 is lower...don't you think?
6 may be loaded correct but I think the overall quality still lags...
The design also in my opinion is outdated. Designs nowadays move fast...
When is the new 6 expected to hit the markets again?
It wasn't just the price. I also said it was too big. The 6 is more sporty and tossable. The S coupe is a two door version of the S class, very luxurious and more of a cruiser. I'm just not there yet, age-wise. It just seems like an older man's car, IMO. It is exquisite - no argument there.

Granted, BMW has no other luxury GT Coupe in its line up, but that doesn't mean the 6 and S are direct competitors. I would say the S coupe competes more with the Bentley GT. No doubt the trim and finish of the S class drive up its cost. But for the money, the 6 series is beautifully appointed and I still say up to date. It's one of the prettiest cars on the road. I think the new one is due out in two years as a 2018MY, but I am not sure.
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Two different car for different purpose. S class is the high MB luxury car and 6 er is an sport-luxury car.
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If I was looking at an M6 or an I8 Vs. the S coupe I would take the M6, then the I8, then the Mercedes.. You need to get inside of an M6, drive it like a real man, then do the same thing in an S550 coupe and you will never touch that car. That being said, if you're an older gentleman that doesn't drive like a beast then the MB may be for you, the same guy that would get the thrill out of the M6 is not the same guy that would be driving a Mercedes. Although they are both very nice cars and the I8 being slowest and looking the best, the Mercedes is not a drivers car out of the 3.
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6 coupe is the ONLY car BMW has that goes toe to toe with this S Coupe unless you aware of any other BMW line up that we are not aware of?
Again, just because it's a coupe doesn't mean you compare the two.

I guess we should compare the Corvette to the S550, too, since it has 2 doors and is Chevy's most expensive car.

I own the M6 and I've been in the X5 you drive.....the M6 has the same technology as the X5 has. So if the 6 series is looking "dated", that doesn't say much for the X5 that has been out less time than the S550, even.
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6 coupe is the ONLY car BMW has that goes toe to toe with this S Coupe unless you aware of any other BMW line up that we are not aware of?
100% Disagree! Merecedes-Benz S class is the high end luxury car of MB line.
Neither MB or BMW have intention to compete in this class and this is not just the only one. There is no competition in SL class too. I have seen people compare SL with 6 er convertible, but they are not the same. The competitor of 6 er in MB line-up is CLS; however CLS is not coupe or convertible.
The same thing with other brands. Let me ask you question. what's the competitor of 650i Coupe or convertible in Audi line-up? Which Porsche is the competitor of 6 er? what is the competitor of SLS or SLR or AMG GT or R8 in BMW line-up?
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100% Disagree! Merecedes-Benz S class is the high end luxury car of MB line.
Neither MB or BMW have intention to compete in this class and this is not just the only one. There is no competition in SL class too. I have seen people compare SL with 6 er convertible, but they are not the same. The competitor of 6 er in MB line-up is CLS; however CLS is not coupe or convertible.
The same thing with other brands. Let me ask you question. what's the competitor of 650i Coupe or convertible in Audi line-up? Which Porsche is the competitor of 6 er? what is the competitor of SLS or SLR or AMG GT or R8 in BMW line-up?
Agreed, and clearly the CLS and 6GC are pretty direct competitors (as sedans.)
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if they design a Gran Coupe for this S Class, I'd probably get one...
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if they design a Gran Coupe for this S Class, I'd probably get one...
They already have it.... it's called S class Sedan
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They already have it.... it's called S class Sedan
I'm sorry, but the sedan is no where similar to the coupe...
S Class Sedan is very similar class to 7er...

Compare 6 with 6GC...only 4 doors instead of 2...
compares S Coupe with S Sedan...one sporty the other classic...no comparison IMO...
That's why I think the S Coupe (although in S category) is in 6's backyard...I know nobody agree with this logic...but, there I said it again...
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I'm sorry, but the sedan is no where similar to the coupe...
S Class Sedan is very similar class to 7er...
I don't consider S class sedan similar to 7 er. I have driven both and there is nothing similar except the size.
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Compare 6 with 6GC...only 4 doors instead of 2...
Yes you are right. 6GC is 6-Coupe + 2 doors, I completely agree with you

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compares S Coupe with S Sedan...one sporty the other classic...no comparison IMO...
That's why I think the S Coupe (although in S category) is in 6's backyard...I know nobody agree with this logic...but, there I said it again...
I assume you have not seen the S coupe in person yet and if you see it, you won't call it sporty. The S coupe is the replacement of CL Coupe in MB line-up. Do you really consider CL a sporty car? what is sporty in S coupe or CL?
If you are insisting to find a BMW competitor for S class , maybe you have to consider Alpina B6, but still I believe even B6 is more sporty than S Class
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S Coupe is a luxury boat. Good for motorways, a non sense for tracks even in 65AMG form!
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My parents have this new S Coupe and I've driven it.

Like others have said, it's not in the same class as the BMW 6 series, nor are MBZ and BMW marketing to the same group of owners. Completely different cars for completely different buyers.
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It was the nicest sport car...I agree...but as you mentioned it is 4-5 years old and is outdated IMO...this S Coupe is really the proof I think of how old the 6 is now...
outdated? wtf. The 6 looks much better IMO it craps on so many cars these days if youre talking about looks. and the 6 competes with the SL. the S coupe competes with a bentley continental gt..

only way BM could rival it is if they brought back the 8 series..like that gran lusso concept
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Appreciate the comment...but based on your note, it clearly states that you would have gone with the S if the price was right?!
That already says the 6 is outdated and needs immediate rethinking...there isn't any other line up besides the 6 that would be alongside this S.
I agrre the S is in a higher bracket... but I never spoke about price point initially...I think the quality and luxury parts and pieces I see in this S coupe explains the price difference and why the 6 is lower...don't you think?
6 may be loaded correct but I think the overall quality still lags...
The design also in my opinion is outdated. Designs nowadays move fast...
When is the new 6 expected to hit the markets again?
I like both the S coupe and the 6 but

can you stop using the word "outdated" stupidest comment ive ever read in my life..im guessing you dont actually know the difference between a 6 series or an S class.. prices dont matter you can buy a porsche for 120k or a s class for 120k that doesnt mean they rival each other just because its the same price..

and just to throw it out there the M6 has dragged an S63 and S65 coupe at a merc event in the UK the M5 and M6 destroyed both of them by a mile. and if youre wondering why its cause the S coupe is a luxury coupe (boat) the 6 is a Sports GT coupe..
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