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I figured that when I looked at them and there may be where the problem lies, he had to either open them up on the machine or he welded in a reducer and that's why they are that far out. They were not meant for your car but you can always make something fit. Bottom line is you now have a 2.5" inlet tip on a 3" exhaust pipe and that is restriction no matter how you slice it. More back pressure, hotter temps, all bad for the cats and turbos.
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Do the 2.5" tips really make that big of a difference? We are talking about 0.5" difference here.
I really don't want to cause any issues especially to the turbos, but it doesn't seem like 0.5" would, but I don't know nearly enough on this subject like some of you do. To be quite honest, when I came to pickup my car...I was really dissatisfied with how the setup looked. But my one stop shop stressed that it was the best fit since the EVC was kept. This is the first time that I have been dissatisfied with my one stop shop that has done everything else on the car. They aren't the ones who actually did this job, they brought it to a muffler shop because they don't do any welding or exhaust work on site so they outsource. When I came to pickup my car, I also noticed that they didn't put my stock tips in the box with my stock diffuser. I asked them where the tips were and they said, "Oh they aren't in there?". I said no...so I had to go back to the muffler shop that they took my car to, to get my tips back which was kind of annoying. But I think it turned out well since I spoke to the welder and he told me that his shop was the 2nd shop that my shop toook the car to because the 1st muffler place my shop took the car to didn't want to do it (my shop must have told him that), so he told me candidly. My shop didn't mention that to me. Idk if they should have or not? But I guess it doesn't matter. He told me that it was very hard to do the setup since it was a tight fit in there to get the OEM tips off and that it would be a royal PITA to get them back on. He said he charges 1 1/2 hrs of labor. My shop charged me for 2 hrs but I guess they needed to make a small profit on that. Do I regret doing this setup? I think so. I thought it was a good idea at the time to get that Quad exhaust look without changing the mufflers. It looked great on ONEighty's black 650 GC here so I thought I would give it a try as well: http://www.6post.com/forums/showthre...t%3B+magnaflow But then I think about...is my shop and the muffler shop they brought my car to really to blame? They didn't supply those tips...I did. My dilemma now is, do I go back to my shop for them to put it back to stock (diffuser and tips), or do I go back to the muffler shop direct and have him weld back the OEM tips so I don't have to go back to my shop to pay them extra to get the same job done? And then I could go to another shop to get my diffuser put back on? Hopefully you guys can help me figure this out with pointing me to the right tips or how to go about going back to stock. Getting a full exhaust wasn't and isn't an option right now. I don't need better sound, the MSport mufflers are good enough. I know this is a 100k car so $2,500 may not seem like a big amount for an exhaust but I honestly just don't want to spend that money for it. I'm not cheap, I just don't think I need/want an aftermarket exhaust with added noise and drone. For me its not necessary honestly. This really turned out to be more of a pain instead of enjoyment. Last edited by Zack G.; 10-09-2014 at 08:09 AM.. |
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In the meantime I will just have to roll with these until I come back down to South FL where my OEM stuff is. I may just have them touched up as I originally said in black paint first to see in the meantime. Do you think a Megan race exhaust that I've seen on here for ~$500 be better? I think I would consider that if there is no drone inside (that's what I am worried about most), and I would powder coat is gloss black since it only comes in SS. Would it throw any error codes on the dash? |
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A half decent muffler shop could cut off the pipe and just put on a new one if that's the case.. Essentially it is 2 Megan Racing sourced mufflers with dual tips.
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That's what I figured. Looks like Redline 360 has the best price anywhere on them for $657 shipped. I am going to consider this. But if I got the Megan I would probably have to put my MSport diffuser back on for it to look good. And I think I would need to get the exhausts powder coated in Gloss Black as well since they only come in SS. I don't think this exhaust would look right with the M6 diffuser either. What do you think?
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10-10-2014, 09:09 AM | #33 |
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This thread is a sea of misinformation.
First of all, when you try and run a custom setup here with universal parts, everything needs to be test fit and evaluated before cutting and welding. Your shop clearly did not do that because no one pull the OEM diffuser and swap the M6 one on without noticing M car exhaust tips extend far further back towards the muffler beacuse they are viewable. The standard muffler tips are short because they aren't viewable and it saves on cost. Regardless of how close you are with this shop, they should have never let you leave like that. The Megan Racing exhaust should fit your car without an issue. There is no M-Sport/non issue, they just didn't make a version specifically called out to fot the F06 GC, but if I recall your rocking a coupe. The exhaust is available in both SS and burnt titanium "look". If youre looking for best pricing, look to the vendors on the boards. Shoot them a PM and they will give you unadvertised pricing. I've seen 625 shipped from extreme power house at some time. My personal opinion, I would leave the diffuser as is and mount the Megan with SS tips. Youre teetering on having too much black on your car (imo, respectively). Any gloss black tips will get lost in a gloss black diffuser. You could paint it white and go with gloss tips though. You comented you liked the rear of my 6, that was with polished tips.
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Is the sea of misinformation related to the mentioning of the increased back pressure from the Magnaflow tips? I am thinking of getting the SS one and powder coating it black (also to get that Megan racing decal off of the tips). If my car was black, then I would probably leave it SS. But I think with my car being AW, gloss black is what I would like. I don't mind that it will get a bit lost with a black diffuser. I am not trying to make the exhaust stand out. I think that the M6 diffuser may not be the best fit for the Megan exhaust since the 650's I've seen with the Megan all ran the Msport diffuser and it seemed to fit that perfectly. |
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The backpressure comment was one, the Megan not fitting the Msport/M6 diffuser was another. You could always paint the diffuser AW like the standard M6 diffuser and then go with the gloss black tips. Either way its your choice. I think the Megan tips are long enough to run the M6 diffuser. IMO is looks way more aggressive and unique compared to the standard M sport. There is someone else on these boards who has made this conversion, also with a AW car and you do not notice the tips as you do in your scenario. http://www.6post.com/forums/showthre...ht=M6+diffuser
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Comment was regarding the tips. Yes, of course running a 3" exhaust, or anything larger than 2.5" into a reducer and a muffler inlet is not optimal. I would never decrease any diameter in the system. I do not believe the muffler outlets on the 650 are not 3", they are smaller than that. Your taking a 3" inlet and splitting it into 2 outlets., one of which is often closed. It would drone all day to have dual 3" outlets with a single 3" inlet.
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I found a few vids on YouTube, one where the camera is right by the tips: I LOVE the sound of this. Sounds mean with a nice deep tone. And also another video shot from the back side rear that looks like it has black tips but it doesn't sound as aggressive Anyone know the differences? I also spoke with Megan and they said that if the exhaust is powder coated black then it will lose its 1 year warranty. So as much as I would love gloss black tips, I don't want to void the warranty incase anything starts rattling Last edited by Zack G.; 10-14-2014 at 11:09 AM.. |
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IMHO sounds like you're going thru a lot of worry and frustration just for quad tips fitted to OEM mufflers. If it were me I'd just go with a designed and proven set up made for the 6 series yes...even if it meant an aftermarket exhaust IF that was the look I wanted. Otherwise it seems like a lot of worry for naught. IMHO. Watching with interest tho to see how this turns out for you.
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I don't know the reasoning behind it, that's what the guy from Megan told me when I mentioned power coating it gloss black. He said if you powder coat it, it will lose its 1 year warranty. If it starts rattling or any of the parts inside the exhaust are compromised, we wouldn't be able to replace it under warranty. Maybe I should call back and ask, what if just the tips are powder coated black and not the entire exhaust? If I still get the same answer then maybe I'll just leave them in SS even though that's not really what I would like I'm also curious what would happen with an aftermarket exhaust if I brought it into the dealership for service. Would they say anything? Is this something that would void the factory 4 year 50k mile warranty like a software/tune would? I'm a n00b when it comes to this stuff since I've always done strictly visual MOD's only. |
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Why are you concerned with a 1yr warranty on an exhaust anyway? The dealership also wouldn't care if you modified the exhaust line. Its really just a cosmetic part. Downpipes and tunes are a different story because the could have a negative impact on the function of certain components. If I were you, I would stop wasting time and money and just pick an avenue and go with it. Theres very little risk associated with the kinds of mods youre talking about. Buy some Megan exhausts, get them coated and put them on. Done.
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