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07-20-2017, 12:57 PM | #596 |
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says the single solitary person in the world who probably still likes soft tops. LOLOLOL
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07-20-2017, 02:33 PM | #597 |
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Can't disagree w/ the comment that M should be reserved for coupes, but then again, it's not as if the convertible counterpart is far behind in performance.
As for the previous Z4 gen, wasn't it developed as a convertible? I think that the coupe was ironically *heavier* by, what, 15-35kg?, so that sucked. |
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I would be careful though. They are taking cues from the stunning 8er concept..which has alot of new design languages, but being a concept, they were as aggressive as it gets, and that way it came out really nice. Lets see what happens when they tone these down and implement them to the lineup. I guess we will find out next month with the rumored Z4 concept which should preview closely the production car, much like the 4-series concept some years back. |
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07-20-2017, 04:48 PM | #599 | |
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07-21-2017, 12:17 PM | #601 | |
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Are there plans for a coupe, or will that be reserved for Toyota's version?
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Ya, I always wondered about why the coupe was heavier....they couldn't be bothered to take out the reinforcements and just tacked on the roof? I wonder how many other cars have the coupe being heavier also? |
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07-21-2017, 01:08 PM | #603 | |
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http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2017/2/2...Coupe-7737629/ Here's another one, but its pretty obscure: https://oppositelock.kinja.com/mazda...-it-1618120073 |
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07-22-2017, 11:48 AM | #604 |
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Yeah, no. Hardtops are the dumbest thing to ever happen to convertibles. Well, after automatics.
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Meh, BMW has been going backwards, period. Check out the supercar marques, most of them hardtops. It's over.
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Every time I look at used cars with folding hardtops the questions about whether they still work or not abound. They're cute and clever but their mechanisms don't stand the test of time.
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Don't worry about it - ragtops will fade away with the grandfathers from the 40's. Soft tops look like shit. Ferrari got rid of it for a reason and McLaren didn't even bother considering it - and if anyone's going to be worrying about weight and aesthetics, it's those two.
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Imagine the next 4 series going this route so the boot is usable... |
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It isn't hard to justify. The potential number of conquest/Loyalty/Upsell transactions over the M40i Roadster are catastrophically low. The fact that there IS a series coupe opens up an opportunity for those markets that have adopted the UNGTR's and are taking advantage of the free-trade agreements. An M Coupe would cost no more to bring to market than the Roadster and allows a unique positioning plan. As far as the contract is concerned, those two are all it includes. If anything is added, it won't be for a few years. |
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Re supercar brands, sure, but they could've been lazy like BMW and put a rag and called it the day, but luckily they're not and actually did something much better. Never cared for Merc, such a boring, non-sporty brand for old rich dudes. Their latest offering is just uber-rice German-style. Last edited by tranquility; 07-23-2017 at 01:48 PM.. |
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I've looked at ragtops and everyone had an issue. Weathered fabric,rips, tears, etc.
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