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08-23-2013, 08:03 AM | #45 | |
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It is not a comparo test. It is a drivers car test, the winner can be in any price bracket. Price has no bearing on the outcome. There was a E63 wagaon in the test. It actually got 7th. |
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08-23-2013, 10:16 AM | #46 |
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What do People expect ?
We are talking about a 1,9t luxury GT car, with loads of torque and almost 600hp ! I took my M6 to the Nürburgring Nordschleife, the toughest Place on earth for a Car and the performance was incredible! No need to complain about anything |
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08-23-2013, 11:35 AM | #47 | |
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08-23-2013, 01:50 PM | #49 |
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There is truth to that, think Pobst has only praised the M3 from anything I've seen (and somewhat begrudgingly). On the M6, Jason Plato (also race driver, 5th Gear) openly loved it and said he didn't really understand the criticisms.
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08-23-2013, 01:56 PM | #50 |
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C&D actually also noticed worse stopping distances vs the M5 even tho the M6GC has carbon ceramic brakes, but they think there may be a glazing effect
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...pe-test-review |
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08-23-2013, 02:05 PM | #51 |
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It has been said about the aventador's cc brakes also
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08-23-2013, 02:10 PM | #52 |
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IMHO the driver had trouble handling the power. In the video, he repeatedly complained that the M6 had oversteer out of the turns, that's due to acceleration. Curious if tire, tire pressure, or driver change would make a difference. That's not a complaint I've heard often.
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08-23-2013, 02:40 PM | #53 | |
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like i said, this car feels like if it had too much power. Coming out of sharp turns it helps to have one gear higher. |
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08-23-2013, 02:50 PM | #54 |
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did anyone expect any other result from this comparo?
bloated, pretty machinery |
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08-23-2013, 07:48 PM | #55 | |
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08-23-2013, 10:31 PM | #56 | |
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This type of review is what created the cult following for the M3. Maybe BMW needs a corporate kick in the nuts. I get the 650i, that's a cool GT car. Wtf is the new M6 I don't know. I hope the new M3/M4 is truly a great car but M6 has set the bar pretty low. |
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08-23-2013, 11:28 PM | #57 |
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not really m-divisions fault... but rather the bmw higher corp. The m-division did complain about this exact platform stating that the cars the bmw forces them to turn into m cars were too heavy and so the division requested to branch out and make their own m-cars, similar to the srt, but bmw rejected it.
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08-23-2013, 11:49 PM | #58 |
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wow really embarrassing BMW, really embarrassing... you can say that its a touring car, not a sports and whatnot but bottom line: it is an ///m car.
is it beautiful? yes, it would've been in the top 3 we were ranking looks. is it far and away better than its predecessor? yes, obviously, in every way. but it should be a drivers car because that's what BMW ///m stands for.
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This must be one of the most stupid car shows as I don't understand the point of comparing cars from different categories, built with different purposes and having huge price differences
For sure M6 is a track capable car as M Power Fan awesome demonstrated , I can't see a CL 63 AMG or Bentley Continental GT doing better (these are its real rivals)! But comparing it with cars like 911, R8, SLS and other full plastic american "muscle" cars it's a big nonsense |
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The point of the review is to compare drivers cars and to show that a car doesn't have to cost $100k to be a good driving car.
It's about the driving experience. Funny, in the old days ///M cars had that nailed. As you can see now others have benchmarked them and exceeded them for less $$$ and its still a good driving car. I don't wanna own an American car either but clearly they are doing something right and owning one is a good thing. BMW better listen up cause America is the biggest car market next to China and they have plenty to gain listening or else they will have plenty to lose. |
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08-24-2013, 04:17 PM | #63 |
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You can have a good driving experience in a GT car, going fast on the motorway, or you can have a good driving experience on the track in a real sport car which I'm sure can't offer the best comfort as a DD.
Let's not mix the things so much. On the other hand the price range should be limited somehow. Can you go in the holiday with a Porsche GT3 or with a Panamera? With a SLS Black or with an E/ S/ CL AMG? |
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Yesterday it certainly felt like the M6 cab was the "driver's car" on a gorgeous sunny day in good old Georgia. And to top it off-3 separate cars pulled up alongside me at different times to tell me how gorgeous the car was and one cheering me on to beat the Porsche. I nodded and proceeded to oblige. |
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