640i 1st oil change not until 10-15k?

xionium · 10-25-2013, 01:06 PM

Hi guys,

Just did interstate drive, dealer told me when I got there that no oil change needed unless M6, since I only have 640i no oil change needed till computer says so & that replacing anyway early would be detrimental because the special formula they used on the initial oil for the seals/gaskets to help seat.

I drove away w/ no oil change. I have a 500 mile drive ahead of me on Monday so hope some of u guys can tell me what to do before then (if anything)

Thanks fellow 6ers!

BillCB · 10-25-2013, 07:13 PM

My 650iX has 20,000 kms and the first oil change is not for another 12,000 kms. In miles, this means no service needed until 20,000.

Most of my driving is highway; if it were town/city driving the interval would be shorter. I'd say your dealer is correct. Look at the iDrive menu - it will tell you.

Bill

Red640 · 10-26-2013, 06:48 PM

It happen to me , I visit the dealer at 10,000km to change the oil for the first time ,
But they didn't accept it , they said come again when u have massage in Idrive ( oil change required ),

///SAL · 10-26-2013, 06:54 PM

Its once a year or by miles, which ever occur first

xionium · 10-27-2013, 05:46 AM

Thanks guys

I understand now, will use iDrive service status

GreyCoupe · 02-23-2014, 10:37 AM

Old school--first change at 2000km to rid the engine of filings, sheared off thingies, and break-in debris.

Then every 8000km after that. Cheapest insurance available...

For non-metric Americans, 1500mi, and every 5000 after that... :/)

wzj519 · 02-23-2014, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillCB

My 650iX has 20,000 kms and the first oil change is not for another 12,000 kms. In miles, this means no service needed until 20,000.

Most of my driving is highway; if it were town/city driving the interval would be shorter. I'd say your dealer is correct. Look at the iDrive menu - it will tell you.

Bill

My 650gc requires oil change at 19000kms.

ibimmer954 · 02-25-2014, 01:28 AM

My 650i GC is burning one quart of oil about every 1100 miles. So at that rate, when I have my first oil "change" after a year, more oil will have burned off than what the oil capacity is. lol

zoltans4 · 02-25-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ibimmer346

My 650i GC is burning one quart of oil about every 1100 miles. So at that rate, when I have my first oil "change" after a year, more oil will have burned off than what the oil capacity is. lol

LOL

BillCB · 03-27-2014, 06:54 PM

Well, I finally had to add a litre (quart) of oil as my GC reached 24,000 kms (15,000 miles). Still doesn't require an oil change for another 8,000 kms.

Clearly not an oil burner - probably because most of my travel is highway, very little city.

JNoSol · 03-31-2014, 07:05 PM

I change my oil between the recommended intervals, 7,500miles. Let's face it, BMW engineers work closely with Castrol to find the the "max" threshold of the oil so they don't have to pay for too many oil changes before your 50k free maintenance is up. Is it safe? Yes. However, if you drive your car as hard as I drive mine, paying $100 between intervals is cheap insurance. I plan on keeping my cars past 50k (hope I can hold the temptation of trading in). If you plan to trade your car in before 50k, don't bother...

GannyCy · 04-01-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xionium

Hi guys,

that replacing anyway early would be detrimental because the special formula they used on the initial oil for the seals/gaskets to help seat.

What is the "special formula" exactly? Where can it be purchased? Could the existing special formula be drained and replaced with new special formula before the first scheduled oil change?

RichardP · 04-01-2014, 11:34 AM

It amazing how much the oil service intervals vary in different parts of the world.

For my M6 GC in the UK it's 30,000km. In the US when first introduced it would have been 24,000km, now in the US it's 15,000km. If you're in the Gulf, it's 8,000km.

I'll be changing the oil at no more than 15,000km, maybe 10,000km.

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BillCB Private 2 Rep 73 Posts Drives: 2014 650i X Gran Coupe M Sport Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Tobermory, Ontario iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 Ford F350 [0.00] 2014 BMW 6501X Gran ... [9.00]	My 650iX has 20,000 kms and the first oil change is not for another 12,000 kms. In miles, this means no service needed until 20,000. Most of my driving is highway; if it were town/city driving the interval would be shorter. I'd say your dealer is correct. Look at the iDrive menu - it will tell you. Bill __________________ Bill 650iX Grand Coupe M Sport Previous - 528i, 533i, 635CSi, 850i, 740i, 745i, 645Ci.
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Red640 New Member 0 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 640i Gran Coupe Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: KSA iTrader: (0)	It happen to me , I visit the dealer at 10,000km to change the oil for the first time , But they didn't accept it , they said come again when u have massage in Idrive ( oil change required ),
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GreyCoupe Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 253 Posts Drives: 15 650i Coupe Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (0)	Old school--first change at 2000km to rid the engine of filings, sheared off thingies, and break-in debris. Then every 8000km after that. Cheapest insurance available... For non-metric Americans, 1500mi, and every 5000 after that... :/) __________________ Enjoyed some fun cars over the years: 1966 Corvette Convertible, 240Z, E24 L6, 300CE-24, 2004 645 Ci, 550SL, A6s, 535xi, E300/Bluetec/420, Grand Cherokee Overland, 2012 650i Coupe, 12 CL550, 13 SL550, 15 650i Coupe
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BillCB Private 2 Rep 73 Posts Drives: 2014 650i X Gran Coupe M Sport Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Tobermory, Ontario iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 Ford F350 [0.00] 2014 BMW 6501X Gran ... [9.00]	Well, I finally had to add a litre (quart) of oil as my GC reached 24,000 kms (15,000 miles). Still doesn't require an oil change for another 8,000 kms. Clearly not an oil burner - probably because most of my travel is highway, very little city. __________________ Bill 650iX Grand Coupe M Sport Previous - 528i, 533i, 635CSi, 850i, 740i, 745i, 645Ci.
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JNoSol Brigadier General 1381 Rep 3,834 Posts Drives: 750 MSPORT & E90M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kansas City iTrader: (0)	I change my oil between the recommended intervals, 7,500miles. Let's face it, BMW engineers work closely with Castrol to find the the "max" threshold of the oil so they don't have to pay for too many oil changes before your 50k free maintenance is up. Is it safe? Yes. However, if you drive your car as hard as I drive mine, paying $100 between intervals is cheap insurance. I plan on keeping my cars past 50k (hope I can hold the temptation of trading in). If you plan to trade your car in before 50k, don't bother...
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