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      09-12-2016, 03:17 AM   #1
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At what point is it too late to get a F06/F12/F13?

So going off of: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=901686 , the new 6 series (perhaps called the 8 series as per the rumors) will be coming out around the beginning of 2019 as a 2020 model. That's still a bit a ways off, but makes you wonder if its worth shelling out 100 large for a 6 when the new one will be here before the next olympics I was considering getting a 6GC, but kinda hesitant now seeing how soon the next one will be.

Also, if the new one will be called the 8 series, maybe the current gen will become more timeless as the "last 6". Regardless, the next gen will bring a whole lot of new tech and more powerful yet efficient engines as seen in the 7 and upcoming G30 5, so it will also have its own worth in waiting.

Will the 6 hold its worth and be a good investment to buy right now, and if so, how long do you guys think the window to buy wisely is? Maybe until the middle of 2017?
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So going off of: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=901686 , the new 6 series (perhaps called the 8 series as per the rumors) will be coming out around the beginning of 2019 as a 2020 model. That's still a bit a ways off, but makes you wonder if its worth shelling out 100 large for a 6 when the new one will be here before the next olympics I was considering getting a 6GC, but kinda hesitant now seeing how soon the next one will be.

Also, if the new one will be called the 8 series, maybe the current gen will become more timeless as the "last 6". Regardless, the next gen will bring a whole lot of new tech and more powerful yet efficient engines as seen in the 7 and upcoming G30 5, so it will also have its own worth in waiting.

Will the 6 hold its worth and be a good investment to buy right now, and if so, how long do you guys think the window to buy wisely is? Maybe until the middle of 2017?
The F12/F06 hasn't held its worth since release. This car drops considerably every year, probably more than any other current BMW. It's a decent car to lease, but unless you are wanting to own one for 10 years or so, there isn't much "value" in purchasing one.

That being said, you could find some great deals on slightly used ones, or new 2016's.
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Yep, the 6 is a disaster in terms of residuals. It makes it a bargain to buy slightly used.
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you dont buy big BMW's as investments they loose so much money, why dont you just buy one now and in a few years chop it in for a new version and have best of both worlds.
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It's never too late. Get yourself into a 6er and enjoy life.
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I got almost 25% off list on a loaded 2016 GC w/6700 mi. Add a decent residual, rolling my MSDs and I'm not paying much more than I would have for a new loaded 3er. The car is awesome, though had I paid $3500 for the B&O sound, I'd be quite unhappy.

Reality is that I may never lease a brand new car again.
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The F12/F06 hasn't held its worth since release. This car drops considerably every year, probably more than any other current BMW. It's a decent car to lease, but unless you are wanting to own one for 10 years or so, there isn't much "value" in purchasing one.

That being said, you could find some great deals on slightly used ones, or new 2016's.
Oh yes, I've noticed the depreciation for sure. One thing I have noted as well, the M6 holds its price gap over the 650i regardless of whether it's new or not. The ~$20k price difference seems to hold true for multiple examples of similar mileage used 650i's and M6's.

The thing I meant by "value" is just being able to love the car day in and day out regardless of how many years "old" it is. A Porsche 911 is a prime example of this. I don't think anybody with any gen of 911 (except maybe the 996) regrets what's in their garage ever. BMW typically nails this pretty well (nearly every gen of any given model holds its own), but for example, Mercedes seems to make every new gen in an attempt to harshly out date the previous generations. Not many late model MB's look or feel interesting 10 or more years on.

I would also definitely be interested in owning it to around the 100k miles/10ish years mark if possible. So then reliability also comes into question.
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I got almost 25% off list on a loaded 2016 GC w/6700 mi. Add a decent residual, rolling my MSDs and I'm not paying much more than I would have for a new loaded 3er. The car is awesome, though had I paid $3500 for the B&O sound, I'd be quite unhappy.

Reality is that I may never lease a brand new car again.
Your 6 is fire!!! I wish I could find one just like that preowned!!!
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Oh yes, I've noticed the depreciation for sure. One thing I have noted as well, the M6 holds its price gap over the 650i regardless of whether it's new or not. The ~$20k price difference seems to hold true for multiple examples of similar mileage used 650i's and M6's.

The thing I meant by "value" is just being able to love the car day in and day out regardless of how many years "old" it is. A Porsche 911 is a prime example of this. I don't think anybody with any gen of 911 (except maybe the 996) regrets what's in their garage ever. BMW typically nails this pretty well (nearly every gen of any given model holds its own), but for example, Mercedes seems to make every new gen in an attempt to harshly out date the previous generations. Not many late model MB's look or feel interesting 10 or more years on.

I would also definitely be interested in owning it to around the 100k miles/10ish years mark if possible. So then reliability also comes into question.
I'm in the market for a 6 gran coupe right now and let me tell you this is a car that I plan to keep for maybe another 5-7 years especially if they plan to eliminate it and make a 8 series.
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Your 6 is fire!!! I wish I could find one just like that preowned!!!
Just keep trolling the local dealers' websites. That's how I did it. Checked about 25 local dealers each week.
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      09-13-2016, 11:45 AM   #12
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I'm in the market for a 6 gran coupe right now and let me tell you this is a car that I plan to keep for maybe another 5-7 years especially if they plan to eliminate it and make a 8 series.
Completely agree, owning a 6er for the long term just makes sense.

So, the rumors indicate that the 8-series will be the same type of car as the current 6, but the 6 name will be transferred to a completely new model that's a grand touring sports car - think Porsche 911, Mercedes AMG GT, or Jaguar F-Type competitor. So then on the same note that the current 6 could be the "last (real) 6", then there is the hesitation to buy one for the long term as the name would start being associated with the hot new sports car on the block, and as the 8 would start being viewed as the better BMW luxury touring coupe.

All of these weigh into the thread's question, "At what point is it too late to get a F06/F12/F13?" haha. Also, is the N63 really reliable enough to keep pushing to and past the 100k miles mark?
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That being said, you could find some great deals on slightly used ones, or new 2016's.
I don't know about the USA but I just got a new 640i convertible at £16k off list - that goes a long way towards reducing the depreciation.
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