Is a drop necessary with 21" wheels on an f06 gc?

[mrainv23]

Need some advice...purchasing a set of 21" forgiato maglias. How will plus sized wheels look without a drop with the current m6 oem suspension? I would like to leave my springs as is. Thx in advance for help.

[ice7]

To me a drop is needed when going aftermaket wheels esp. going for a larger diameter. The wheel gap appears to be more obvious in my opinion. On the M6 coupe the wheel gap is not that bad. You may get away with it. Not sure about the M6GC. Its really up to you, if you are fine with the wheel gap then just keep it stock.

[Twitch Massacre]

A drop is necessary in my opinion. If you're going for custom wheels, I don't know much about Forgiato, never been into their stuff, but if they are anything like other custom forged wheel manufacturers like HRE where they make vehicle specific custom fitments, it's better to have the car stanced properly before fitting wheels. Specially if you're going for wheels larger than OEMs. 21s on the normal gap would look huge, the car would end up looking like a yo-yo-fresh-baller-mobile, unless that's the look you're looking for a drop is in order.

[JOHNBMWM5]

Originally Posted by mrainv23

Need some advice...purchasing a set of 21" forgiato maglias. How will plus sized wheels look without a drop with the current m6 oem suspension? I would like to leave my springs as is. Thx in advance for help.

If your roads are like german autobahns thats great, but otherwise NO.

Unless of course you all ready have dentures.

[bigbrian]

Originally Posted by Twitch Massacre

A drop is necessary in my opinion. If you're going for custom wheels, I don't know much about Forgiato, never been into their stuff, but if they are anything like other custom forged wheel manufacturers like HRE where they make vehicle specific custom fitments, it's better to have the car stanced properly before fitting wheels.

^ +1

Originally Posted by Twitch Massacre

21s on the normal gap would look huge, the car would end up looking like a yo-yo-fresh-baller-mobile, unless that's the look you're looking for a drop is in order.

Brian

[adibaiz1]

You definitely need a drop...but be careful if you do H&R springs or who does the install for you...(we can't figure out what could've happened / this company did a lot of work on my cars before...)
My rear shocks got blown after i installed the H&R springs....i'm w/out my M6 for 10 days already...was told 3-4 weeks for new OEM shocks to come from Germany.
I bought a set of KW V3's ( Hunter 5179 from this forum) to fix the problem...lmao

[ice7]

Originally Posted by adibaiz1

You definitely need a drop...but be careful if you do H&R springs or who does the install for you...(we can't figure out what could've happened / this company did a lot of work on my cars before...)
My rear shocks got blown after i installed the H&R springs....i'm w/out my M6 for 10 days already...was told 3-4 weeks for new OEM shocks to come from Germany.
I bought a set of KW V3's ( Hunter 5179 from this forum) to fix the problem...lmao

Wow, how long had you have your H&R's installed on the M6 and how many miles? I guess it really depends on your roads. I'm currently on H&R's and the ride quality sucks compared to the M5.

[Roadrage]

I agree with the drop it looks so much cleaner and flush.

[mrainv23]

Thanks for the advice. I had H&Rs on my f10 and drop was too aggressive and the ride was just ok, this is why I ask. I am really happy with OEM set up suspension on f06. I had BMW install my springs previously...paid $900 unfortunately, but install was flawless.

[C's Bimmer]

Originally Posted by mrainv23

Need some advice...purchasing a set of 21" forgiato maglias. How will plus sized wheels look without a drop with the current m6 oem suspension? I would like to leave my springs as is. Thx in advance for help.

I have a 2015 M6 Gran Coupe w/ 21" DPE wheels, but my car also has the Comp Package, which has a different suspension set-up and has the car sitting much lower, so I don't need to drop the car any further -- it looks perfect the way it is. If you do not have the Comp Package, I would suggest lowering it.

[bigbrian]

I would go with the KW HAS Kit vs. getting springs. You can adjust the height, the ride is great, and you retain EDC.

Brian

[adibaiz1]

Originally Posted by ice7

Wow, how long had you have your H&R's installed on the M6 and how many miles? I guess it really depends on your roads. I'm currently on H&R's and the ride quality sucks compared to the M5.

The next day after i had them installed, i went to put the 22" wheels on and we noticed that the rear shocks were leaking...probably drove 40-50 miles on them, if that...and the shop that did the installation is a very reputable shop in South Fl....we still don't know what caused the shocks to fail...anyway they are taking care of it , no questions asked...i missed my baby..had it for 1 week and now more than 10 days w/out it.....

[AstonMartian777]

Those rims are so ugly

[Twitch Massacre]

Originally Posted by bigbrian

I would go with the KW HAS Kit vs. getting springs. You can adjust the height, the ride is great, and you retain EDC.

Brian

You retain EDC with the H&R springs, unfortunately the ride quality sucks on all settings. I was planning on swapping my H&Rs for the KW HAS, but we then unfortunately found out that may be more trouble than it's worth as my 21x12 setup on the ADV1s would have less space to clear the shocks with the KWs than with the H&Rs as the KWs change the symmetry of the suspension a bit and sit closer to the tires.

[Twitch Massacre]

Originally Posted by C's Bimmer

I have a 2015 M6 Gran Coupe w/ 21" DPE wheels, but my car also has the Comp Package, which has a different suspension set-up and has the car sitting much lower, so I don't need to drop the car any further -- it looks perfect the way it is. If you do not have the Comp Package, I would suggest lowering it.

Well, there's much confusion surrounding that C as many have discussed this in another thread and measured their Non-CP and CP M6s and found them to be identical in height. Not to mention there is added confusion from documents from BMW stating that the 10mm drop in the Comp Pack is only on the M5 whereas other documents from BMW are unclear and make it seem as if it were for both M5s and M6s. I for one believe that it's only on the M5 having seen a few measurements on stock CP and Non-CP M6s where they are all exactly the same.

[bigbrian]

Originally Posted by Twitch Massacre

You retain EDC with the H&R springs, unfortunately the ride quality sucks on all settings. I was planning on swapping my H&Rs for the KW HAS, but we then unfortunately found out that may be more trouble than it's worth as my 21x12 setup on the ADV1s would have less space to clear the shocks with the KWs than with the H&Rs as the KWs change the symmetry of the suspension a bit and sit closer to the tires.

Wow... You went with 12" wheels on the rear? What tire are you putting on it?

Brian

[Twitch Massacre]

Originally Posted by bigbrian

Wow... You went with 12" wheels on the rear? What tire are you putting on it?

Brian

Yeah, I went 9.5 fronts and 12 rears on Pirelli P-Zero 255/30/21 and 325/25/21.

[bigbrian]

Originally Posted by Twitch Massacre

Yeah, I went 9.5 fronts and 12 rears on Pirelli P-Zero 255/30/21 and 325/25/21.

Holy shit that is wild man! When you get them mounted up (I know it seems like a lifetime from now) definitely going to have to take some ass shots of that car bro -- it's gonna be chunky!

Brian

[C's Bimmer]

Originally Posted by Twitch Massacre

Well, there's much confusion surrounding that C as many have discussed this in another thread and measured their Non-CP and CP M6s and found them to be identical in height. Not to mention there is added confusion from documents from BMW stating that the 10mm drop in the Comp Pack is only on the M5 whereas other documents from BMW are unclear and make it seem as if it were for both M5s and M6s. I for one believe that it's only on the M5 having seen a few measurements on stock CP and Non-CP M6s where they are all exactly the same.

A member of my country club has a 2014 M6 Gran Coupe non-CP(I actually saw him today. lol!) and we always park right next to each other. Now, maybe it's because I have my 21" wheels and he has his stock 433 wheels, but he even made a comment about how much lower my car looked than his. Again, it could be the wheels, but I definitely have a lot less of a gap than he does, hence the reason I'm not going with KW. Don't get me wrong, I love KW and have the V3's on my M5 and have that car really low, but I just don't think it will make that much of a dent on my current car. Then again, I could get bored and want to do a new mod and just buy this kit for the hell of it. LOL!

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by mrainv23

Need some advice...purchasing a set of 21" forgiato maglias. How will plus sized wheels look without a drop with the current m6 oem suspension? I would like to leave my springs as is. Thx in advance for help.

I've installed multiple sets of springs and coil over kits on F series M5/M6
My preference is either the KW or Dinan suspension kits.
It works perfect with the factory EDC shocks to retain its function and you can adjust it to your height preference. Easy installation and the vehicle rides so well. A lot better then just adding lowering springs.

[C's Bimmer]

Originally Posted by bigbrian

Holy shit that is wild man! When you get them mounted up (I know it seems like a lifetime from now) definitely going to have to take some ass shots of that car bro -- it's gonna be chunky!

Brian

Hey Brian,

I actually have 12's in the rear and my wheels were designed for 325's too. However, I didn't want to go with Pirelli's, so I went with 305's, since Michelin's largest size is 305/25/21 in the Super Sport. The tires look a bit stretched because of this, so for my next set of tires, I might try the PZero's, just to have that 325 stance in the rear. LOL!

[Twitch Massacre]

Originally Posted by C's Bimmer

Hey Brian,

I actually have 12's in the rear and my wheels were designed for 325's too. However, I didn't want to go with Pirelli's, so I went with 305's, since Michelin's largest size is 305/25/21 in the Super Sport. The tires look a bit stretched because of this, so for my next set of tires, I might try the PZero's, just to have that 325 stance in the rear. LOL!

C, didn't know your barrels were 12s that's awesome to know cause I'm wondering if you've had any issues with rubbing the fender or with the inner barrel knocking on your suspension. These are some of the things I'm concerned about when my wheels finally get here.