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      07-13-2011, 01:12 AM   #23
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I drove the new CLS in an event in Florida and let me tell you that it has some decent aggressive looks (I personally think MB AMG's is like an old fat man wearing sports gear) but… it seems to me that they are just dragsters to go straight and win the race and not truly sports cars. I think the C-AMG is a better fit to talk about performance… but starting with the point of the extremely luxury interior, overloaded with technology (useless for real drivers) I think is the other way around. MB is chasing BMW on its approach. It was BMW who invented the Sport Sedan and just in the last few years MB came up with the AMG packages to "dress" its poor developed non-AMG cars…

But, allow me to finish with a peaceful disclaimer to do not start "one more MB-BMW war here) Everything in life is all about perspective and taste. We all do not love big blondes. :-)

I like mid-size BMW Brunettes.
Although they still look nice, I've always looked at Mercedes styling geared to wards the much more older crowd, like Mercedes going for that "classic" look where as BMW, each generation looks and remains young and modern.
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      07-13-2011, 01:36 AM   #24
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M5 not the flagship?? What. Why
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      07-13-2011, 02:06 AM   #25
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Well... IF the 6er will get this tri-turbo diesel... looks like the rumors might be true for the new M3's to get a tri-turbo (gas) engine.
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      07-13-2011, 02:12 AM   #26
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It's not April 1st, I dont get it? Let's water down the overpriced m models even more, brilliant
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      07-13-2011, 02:37 AM   #27
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So the Grand Sport M with be the BMW M flagship? Why has the love for the M5 been lost?
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      07-13-2011, 03:57 AM   #28
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How pissed are you gonna be if you just ordered an M5.
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      07-13-2011, 04:00 AM   #29
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yess! finally news on the 50d!
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      07-13-2011, 04:22 AM   #30
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I don't get it, why so many complaints?
Always when there is something new, the ranting begins...
About the 20 + HP, the GC 6 is a bigger and heavier car, the 20 HP means jack imo, For performance M5 is still it, in it's class.
It's like comparing the X5M to the E60 M5, newer models will always be more powerful, and have better and newer tech, that's how it works, get over it!
Besides what so wrong with having more choices people?

And again, why compare an excisting model - the CLS, to a model that's driving around with heavy camo, who still isn't even announcend yet...


What i find funny is, after what, 5-6 years, VW have finally putten a more powerfull twin turbo diesel into theyr A6's.
What is BMW respons?
A tri turbo engine making the new Audi engine beeing left behind in the dust.
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      07-13-2011, 06:22 AM   #31
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What many seem to forget is that M6 Gran Coupe will not arrive on the market until mid-late 2013. The M5 has got plenty of breathing space before the flagship arrives.

The M5 will then be over two years old. And ready for a CRT type model in the same period.
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      07-13-2011, 06:23 AM   #32
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What are torque fogures on tri-turbo diesel? 500-600?

Gonna be nice engine - too bad USA will not get it..
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      07-13-2011, 06:52 AM   #33
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tri turbo diesel!!!! i cant wait !! perfect car for dd!!
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      07-13-2011, 08:24 AM   #34
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What many seem to forget is that M6 Gran Coupe will not arrive on the market until mid-late 2013. The M5 has got plenty of breathing space before the flagship arrives.

The M5 will then be over two years old. And ready for a CRT type model in the same period.
M5 CRT
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      07-13-2011, 09:10 AM   #35
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So any words on the size of the upcoming 50d diesel?
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      07-13-2011, 09:11 AM   #36
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M5 CRT
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      07-13-2011, 10:38 AM   #37
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why would bmw not reuse the same engine as the f10 m5? why pour R&D into two separate engines?

i don't buy it.
Just because there is a difference in horsepower doesn't mean they are two completely separate engines. They mean that it will be an M5/M6 motor that is tuned for an additional 20+ horsepower.
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      07-13-2011, 11:38 AM   #38
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I have to disagree with you on the CLS. It think they did a great job. Its almost like a reverse mullet... party in the front and business in the back
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      07-13-2011, 01:03 PM   #39
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Here we go BMW always chasing Mercedes Benz. Totally going after the CLS 63 AMG. It's too bad BMW lacks the vision.

Although I must say the new CLS is a disappointment. Mercedes wrecked a great design. This M6 Grand Coupe looks promising.
+1

Really liked the older CLS, the new one is just not as sexy as the first one.
The rear end is so uncool.
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      07-13-2011, 04:41 PM   #40
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The GC will look great with M Sport Pack and will be awesome in M6 form

CLS AMG will be quite old in that period so I don t think that will have a chance against GC
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      07-13-2011, 06:31 PM   #41
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Mercedes??!!....LOL
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      07-13-2011, 07:01 PM   #42
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LAME...differentiated by an ECU-tuned 20 hp?

The M5 Sedan/Touring and M6 coupe/'vert' should get the same

350 hp triturbo Diesel sounds awesome though...now put it in a 350d and sell it with a DCT-7 please.
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      07-13-2011, 08:46 PM   #43
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Nice, but if it is like anything else BMW has put out in the 6er range recently, it will be vastly overpriced.

But since research shows that most people that buy 6ers are buying it as a third or fourth car, then I guess its right.
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      07-13-2011, 10:56 PM   #44
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580 HP, sick.
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