Paris Autoshow 2010 Live Coverage: BMW 6-Series Concept Coupe

bimmer_335 · 09-30-2010, 08:32 PM

I like it better then the current 6... this thing is definitely production ready. Do I see a pop up nav screen... ? that a no no for bmw

EmPower · 09-30-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by uhn2000

Dunno guys... I hate to say it but I miss Bangle. Something is missing in all these new cars. There is not challenge to love, there is no challenge to admire, its pretty but pretty safe; like a pretty china doll. It doesn't stir but just abides. Its not sexy or passionate its pretty and that is how BMWs are being designed now. I guess we will have to wait for the in person experience or wait for the M6 to see something ravishing.

The Bangle 6er was ahead of its time, this one is just with the times. And that is the real difference between the BMW of yesterday and today.

Exactly my point - I mss those polarizing designs of the last generation. To this date when I see an e65/66 and compare it to an F01/02, the interior was so much better and those cars had so much presence, love them or hate them, you could NEVER mistake them for something else. IMHO, all Hooydonk cares about is the lighting on the car... methinks he never had a lava lamp growing up!!

paulbazo · 09-30-2010, 09:36 PM

Pop Up navi screen? It can not be, when I see the interior photo, the nav screen looks like a pop up, like in the 1 series and the MB C class, please tell me I have vision problems or is only a prototype.

Dazzler · 10-01-2010, 12:02 AM

I miss bangle too. This new 6 doesn't do it for me. Also I was in the showroom the other day and there were a 5er and 7er both in white beside each other. They are SO overall similar - definitely BMW is trying for the family look like they had back in the days with the e38, e39 and e46.

With this 6 series it is so close to being perfect, but it's just not there. E92 however shows how good it is when everything is spot on.

Takumi587 · 10-01-2010, 12:15 AM

Reminds me of a Aston martin for some reason... Hmm I have to see this in person to really make an honest opinion.

RC3 · 10-01-2010, 01:24 AM

the details, such as the grill, exhaust and etc. are amazing.

DougLikesBMW · 10-01-2010, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by uhn2000

Dunno guys... I hate to say it but I miss Bangle. Something is missing in all these new cars. There is not challenge to love, there is no challenge to admire, its pretty but pretty safe; like a pretty china doll. It doesn't stir but just abides. Its not sexy or passionate its pretty and that is how BMWs are being designed now. I guess we will have to wait for the in person experience or wait for the M6 to see something ravishing.

The Bangle 6er was ahead of its time, this one is just with the times. And that is the real difference between the BMW of yesterday and today.

Well said...the more I see this 6er the more disgusted I get, especially with the front end. Honestly it's terrible.

What happened to the CS concept?

e46monk3y · 10-01-2010, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Takumi587

Reminds me of a Aston martin for some reason... Hmm I have to see this in person to really make an honest opinion.

+1 look at the front nose side shot ... I spot Aston Martin influence here Mr Hooydonk??

vladinecko · 10-01-2010, 01:55 AM

very aston martin-ish. i love it. i disagree with the haters. i think the current 6 looks like a depressed cookie monster.

i'm scared to see how much it will be though.

Deltari09 · 10-01-2010, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by EmPower

I miss Chris Bangle <sigh>. the wierd thing is that I don't care much for any of the new Hooydonk Bimmers. The only ones remotely exciting for me are the X5 and X6 --- the X5 is now long in the tooth, so god knows how boring its replacement will be.

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000!
I totally agree with ya!

Nitte Z4 · 10-01-2010, 07:07 AM

I must also say that bangle was way ahead of his time. I mean just look at this and compare to the new one (I do think the new one looks good but for me, at least by the pictures, it doesnt do it for me yet).

http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=h...26tbs%3Disch:1

Omar717s · 10-01-2010, 09:22 AM

can't help but HATE its wheels !!

bimmer_335 · 10-01-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by vladinecko

very aston martin-ish. i love it. i disagree with the haters. i think the current 6 looks like a depressed cookie monster.

i'm scared to see how much it will be though.

+1 lol

bimmer_335 · 10-01-2010, 11:56 AM

for all those who need a reminder of Bangle's days lol

Mu Mu · 10-01-2010, 01:01 PM

^One of the worst design from BMW. I hated that 7er. Thank God it came to an end!

1SerieStud · 10-01-2010, 04:30 PM

I will probably be heavily criticized for saying this, but I think it looks horrible, specially compared to the current 6-series style. The front is just plain ugly, the wheels are way too busy, and if there is a section I somewhat like about the car, it has to be the rear, however, I still prefer the rear of the current 6-series as well. The headlights do seem to be packing some nice/new technology within them, but their shape is still not what I would consider attractive.

Just my opinion.

esquire · 10-01-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmer_335

for all those who need a reminder of Bangle's days lol

better looking than the current 7er.

EnI · 10-02-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by uhn2000

The Bangle 6er was ahead of its time, this one is just with the times. And that is the real difference between the BMW of yesterday and today.

Bangle's 6er?

Are you aware the E63/E64 6er was actually penned by Adrian van Hooydonk himself, when he was still "just" a designer @ BMW, and not being yet a design boss there?

While F12/F13 6er is penned by Nader Faghizadeh, the guy who also designed
F01/02 7er interior!

And that all the new BMW cars we see today (X1, 5er, 5er GT, 7er, X3, 6er, upcoming 1er, VED Concept) were still designed under Bangle as BMW Group design director (and van Hooydonk as BMW Automobile design director).

So, the design language / strategy is not set by the design boss himself, but is decided by Board of Directors, and suggested by a team responsible for design strategy - a team where designers are only on part of equation. Team which also includes marketing experts, finance experts, engineers, design engineers, tooling & material experts, advanced design experts etc. It's a team decision. Design director is only there to execute the decided direction, and to organize & lead design processes, and be the link between the design teams, and the Board of Directors, and other departments within BMW Group. They are not "art directors" in any way!

But they sure do influence the designs with suggestions & advices during the process. But in the end of the day it's still the Board of Directors who decides on final design, and on design strategy as well.

And after E65 7er and E85 Z4 were introduced, both Bangle & van Hooydonk said the next generation of BMW designs would be more about evolution & refinement, with more coherence, precision and fluency. And that was already considered as an indication more "toned-down" were on the way.

Btw, to get a bit of insight into design process just check this "Making of 5er GT" video:

FStop7 · 10-02-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DH2117

What ever happened to short front overhangs?

The law is what happened to them.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/the...y-legislation/

led foot · 10-03-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Definitive

Are you serious... This is the most unique production interior BMW has ever had... Why is the 6er always the bastard child of BMW. The old ones were nice and this one is even nicer.

I dont get why a bunch of Bimmer guys would be bashing the new design direction BMW is going in. You all know that in 3 years when your lease is up you'll be getting the next 3er or 5er or whatever car that follows this current design trend.

Then you'll say, Well its "grown" on me, just like the people who said they hated the Bangle style, then loved it a few years later when they bought one! LOL

Why not just respect a new design instead of bashing it. You may not love it, but is it really bad enough to bash?

Were not looking at a some fugly Chrysler or Geo here, this is the future direction of BMW.

Sheesh, Rant over.

D

led foot · 10-03-2010, 10:37 AM

the two tone interior is very unique, looks better in the last batch of pics. have to see this thing in person.

the rear end of the car is very sexy.

NemesisX · 10-03-2010, 02:03 PM

Don't like it at all, I think it looks hideous.

The new 5 series looks absolutely gorgeous

This new 6 series concept looks absolutely hideous

What's the difference between the two? If you can explicitly describe in words the difference between these two designs, it'd go a long way in helping BMW shape the future "look" of their vehicles.

I think certain areas of the 6 series coupe taken in isolation look nice and "sleek" and mean, but taken together as a whole it looks just hideous.

If you saw nothing but one of the rear tail lights up close, you might think "damn this car looks like it could be pretty sick if the body lines flow well with the design of the tail light" but nope, it doesn't actually pan out that way.

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1SerieStud Brigadier General Drives: '11 VO 1M (498 of 740) Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 3,492 iTrader: (7)	I will probably be heavily criticized for saying this, but I think it looks horrible, specially compared to the current 6-series style. The front is just plain ugly, the wheels are way too busy, and if there is a section I somewhat like about the car, it has to be the rear, however, I still prefer the rear of the current 6-series as well. The headlights do seem to be packing some nice/new technology within them, but their shape is still not what I would consider attractive. Just my opinion. __________________ '08 e90 M3
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bimmer_335 Captain Drives: 335i Coupe Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 781 iTrader: (1)	I like it better then the current 6... this thing is definitely production ready. Do I see a pop up nav screen... ? that a no no for bmw
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Dazzler Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Jerez 2007, 1M on order Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 126 iTrader: (0)	I miss bangle too. This new 6 doesn't do it for me. Also I was in the showroom the other day and there were a 5er and 7er both in white beside each other. They are SO overall similar - definitely BMW is trying for the family look like they had back in the days with the e38, e39 and e46. With this 6 series it is so close to being perfect, but it's just not there. E92 however shows how good it is when everything is spot on.
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Takumi587 M3 Enthusiast Drives: BMW M3, 330Ci, 528i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Irvine Posts: 527 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2002 330Ci [0.00] 2005 E46 M3 [0.00]	Reminds me of a Aston martin for some reason... Hmm I have to see this in person to really make an honest opinion.
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RC3 Colonel Drives: F10 528i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 2,794 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 F10 528i [5.00]	the details, such as the grill, exhaust and etc. are amazing.
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Nitte Z4 Zaddicted Drives: BMW Z4 2,5 i - 03 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 12 iTrader: (0)	I must also say that bangle was way ahead of his time. I mean just look at this and compare to the new one (I do think the new one looks good but for me, at least by the pictures, it doesnt do it for me yet). http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=h...26tbs%3Disch:1
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Omar717s New Member Drives: 2010 e90 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alexandria Posts: 17 iTrader: (0)	can't help but HATE its wheels !!
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Mu Mu First Lieutenant Drives: BMW 330i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Johannesburg Posts: 355 iTrader: (0)	^One of the worst design from BMW. I hated that 7er. Thank God it came to an end!
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led foot New Member Drives: 335i delicious terra interior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 20 iTrader: (0)	the two tone interior is very unique, looks better in the last batch of pics. have to see this thing in person. the rear end of the car is very sexy.
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NemesisX Captain Drives: '08 335i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TX Posts: 776 iTrader: (0)	Don't like it at all, I think it looks hideous. The new 5 series looks absolutely gorgeous This new 6 series concept looks absolutely hideous What's the difference between the two? If you can explicitly describe in words the difference between these two designs, it'd go a long way in helping BMW shape the future "look" of their vehicles. I think certain areas of the 6 series coupe taken in isolation look nice and "sleek" and mean, but taken together as a whole it looks just hideous. If you saw nothing but one of the rear tail lights up close, you might think "damn this car looks like it could be pretty sick if the body lines flow well with the design of the tail light" but nope, it doesn't actually pan out that way.
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