BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   6Post.com | BMW 6-Series Forum > BMW 6 Series Forum > General 6-Series Coupe, Convertible, and Gran Coupe Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-29-2013, 09:29 AM   #45
vladberca
Brigadier General
 
vladberca's Avatar
 
Drives: '09 jetta tsi 6mt
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Craiova

Posts: 3,637
iTrader: (0)

The technology and the options of the 6GC are superior by far
The only real minus of this car is the weight!
vladberca is online now   Romania
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 10:07 AM   #46
tizzyd
Lieutenant
 
tizzyd's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 F32 435xDr M-Sport
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: USA

Posts: 482
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 335i Coupe  [4.25]
Quote:
Originally Posted by bodonx View Post
Is 6 series steering mechanism different from F10 counterparts?
Any F01, F02, F10, F12, F13, or F06 with xDrive gets a hydraulic steering rack while the i variants receive EPS. Car and Driver did a pretty interesting test using a 528i and a 535 xDrive to see how the two compared. Heres the link:http://www.caranddriver.com/features...n-test-feature. From my experience, the hydraulic steering on a 535 xDrive I drove for a couple weeks felt better than the steering of a 640i GC i drove for a couple weeks as well. However, the 640i with the EPS had parking assistant, which was actually awesome, while the xDrive models don't have it because of the hydraulic steering.
__________________
Current: 2014 435i xDrive Coupe 6MT M-Sport, Mineral Grey/Black/Walnut
GONE: 2011 335i Coupe, AW/Saddle, 6MT M-Sport. Mods: BMW Perf. Exhaust, BMW Perf. Power Kit, AFE Stage 2 CAI, 19" BMW Performance Style 269 w/ Michelin PSS (235 Front/265 Rear), painted reflectors, Tint (35% Front, 20% Rear)
GONE: 2008 E92 328xi Black Saph./Coral Red 6MT ZSP ZPP
tizzyd is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 10:11 AM   #47
djsaad1
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: range rover
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: United States

Posts: 328
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tizzyd View Post
Any F01, F02, F10, F12, F13, or F06 with xDrive gets a hydraulic steering rack while the i variants receive EPS. Car and Driver did a pretty interesting test using a 528i and a 535 xDrive to see how the two compared. Heres the link:http://www.caranddriver.com/features...n-test-feature. From my experience, the hydraulic steering on a 535 xDrive I drove for a couple weeks felt better than the steering of a 640i GC i drove for a couple weeks as well. However, the 640i with the EPS had parking assistant, which was actually awesome, while the xDrive models don't have it because of the hydraulic steering.
IAS is also only available on non xdrive cars which I actually really like on my GC.
djsaad1 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 10:21 AM   #48
TheBingoBalls
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: E90 325i, R56 MINI Cooper
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Posts: 1,749
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by misterbeemer View Post
Umm, like rusty seats (BMW F30)? :-/

I don't know...interior is decent and all, but for a price that is about 20K more than competition, they need to do better...lose weight, outperform the competition, etc. And how is this a 5 seater?
The quality may be different (rusty seats), but sitting in a F30, the feeling is still the same - it still feels planted and firm.

And the 6-Series is "decent"? The interior is the best in the class and I give it the nod because that interior isn't found in any of BMW's models vs. the Audi and Mercedes which has the same/very similar layout found in their other cars.

And I really don't have a problem with the weight of the 6-Series. Personally, I look at the car and it's purpose. For a GT, not going to really drive this outside of curvy roads so the weight isn't going to play a huge difference.
TheBingoBalls is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 10:31 AM   #49
the infamous...
Relapsed Bimmerpost Addict
 
the infamous...'s Avatar
 
Drives: like I'M BOUT THAT LIFE
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: PARADISE aka CANES COUNTRY

Posts: 17,534
iTrader: (0)

__________________


"simple is clean" -The ///ModFather
the infamous... is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 10:41 AM   #50
BMWMilan
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Earth

Posts: 306
iTrader: (0)

Given the price of the 650 GC, I just wonder what the sticker price will be for the new 7 ...
BMWMilan is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:10 AM   #51
tony20009
Brigadier General
 
tony20009's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 335i - Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Washington, DC

Posts: 4,506
iTrader: (0)

A $20-$30K premium for the car reviewed in the comparison is more than enough to kill the value proposition. At that difference in price, one would only buy the BMW if that's just what one wanted to have. That said, the 640i is quite comparable in price to the other two cars, and for me, the 640i is enough.

One thing I like better about the BMW is that it can be aesthetically configured the way one wants it. There are far more offerings as go color combos. That is a trait BMW has across all its models and something that distinguishes it from nearly every car maker except the very high-end ones. Moreover, as I age, I care less and less about whether the BMW has the fastest car or the fastest cornering speeds, etc. I do care that I can get a car that looks like I want it to re: interior and exterior colors combos.
__________________
Cheers,
Tony

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
'07, e92 335i, Sparkling Graphite, Coral Leather, Aluminum, 6-speed
tony20009 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:17 AM   #52
Mahzari
Captain
 
Drives: poorly
Join Date: May 2010
Location: California

Posts: 671
iTrader: (0)

$115,000 will get you a 550hp/590tq CLS 63 Performance Pack... Good job BMW. The 6 GC is way too expensive - this 650i is even more than a loaded M5.

Oh well, doesn't matter what I think, they'll still sell.
__________________
2012 328i Sport Line: H/K + SA
Mahzari is offline   Iran
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:20 AM   #53
djsaad1
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: range rover
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: United States

Posts: 328
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahzari View Post
$115,000 will get you a 550hp/590tq CLS 63 Performance Pack... Good job BMW. The 6 GC is way too expensive, I mean this 650i is more than a loaded M5.

Oh well, doesn't matter what I think, they'll still sell.
It would be odd if it wasn't more expensive than an m5. A 550xi is more expensive than an m3 too.
djsaad1 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:25 AM   #54
Mahzari
Captain
 
Drives: poorly
Join Date: May 2010
Location: California

Posts: 671
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by djsaad1 View Post
It would be odd if it wasn't more expensive than an m5. A 550xi is more expensive than an m3 too.
True, but the M5 has usable back seats. I'm 5'9" and snug is an understatement sitting in the back of 640i GC. The CLS is slightly bigger back there and the Panamera - by far - has the most interior space. I understand the market for sleek sedans, but the GC isn't very practical.

I could never justify spending $115k for 400hp. Anything north of $90k should have at least 500hp in my mind.
__________________
2012 328i Sport Line: H/K + SA
Mahzari is offline   Iran
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:25 AM   #55
aceking4u
Private First Class
 
Drives: Honda & Audi
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 111
iTrader: (0)

Interior of the S7 is Money!

I've owned an '10 S5 last year...Man was the interior beautiful

I don't think I sound bias as i can see most of the early comments agree...$30K cheaper (comparison test) and the S7 is faster, more efficient, bigger trunk, great on corners (if needed). No brainier IMHO.

Look at this GORGEOUS diamond stitched interior complimented with Carbon Fiber trim all the way to the back seat.



1. S7
2. 6 Series Gran Coupe
3. CLS550 (My God the Interior and Rear Tail lights are so ugly)

__________________
Honda CR-Z - Daily Wife
Audi A5 - Weekend Mistress
aceking4u is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:37 AM   #56
djsaad1
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: range rover
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: United States

Posts: 328
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahzari View Post
True, but the M5 has usable back seats. I'm 5'9" and snug is an understatement sitting in the back of 640i GC. The CLS is slightly bigger back there and the Panamera - by far - has the most interior space. I understand the market for sleek sedans, but the GC isn't very practical.

I could never justify spending $115k for 400hp. Anything north of $90k should have at least 500hp in my mind.
I can understand that, I really didn't even look at the horsepower before buying the GC , it was all based on looks and luxury.

I have a 650i and drive 95% of the time in comfort+ mode, my whole life I have complained about people buying the bigger engines and driving them slow, and now I am one of those people.
djsaad1 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:45 AM   #57
motorsport_cat
Private First Class
 
motorsport_cat's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 328i
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Montreal

Posts: 191
iTrader: (0)

why the hell would audi say that the s7 hits 60 in under 5 seconds? its under 4...
__________________
///Meow
motorsport_cat is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:47 AM   #58
wdeerfield
A family of bimmers
 
Drives: 2009 e90 2011 f10
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Clifton Park, NY

Posts: 3,199
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by swanson View Post
$115K. No thanks. I'll take the S7.
yea.. seriously.. bmw needs to get on track with its competition as far as standard features or else more and more people are going to switch to audi.
__________________

2009 MBM 328| ZPP | ZSP | ZCW | CA | 6FL | NAV | XENONS | 18x8.5 VB3s ET30/25
2011 Jet Black 535i xdrive | ZPP | ZSP | ZCW | 6FL | NAV | 331s Square
wdeerfield is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:49 AM   #59
aceking4u
Private First Class
 
Drives: Honda & Audi
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 111
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by nemex12 View Post
is money is no concern, I'd take the m6 gc... or a m3 e92, e46 and e30 and call it a day
If money is no concern...I'll get an R8 for $115k.
__________________
Honda CR-Z - Daily Wife
Audi A5 - Weekend Mistress
aceking4u is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 11:50 AM   #60
aceking4u
Private First Class
 
Drives: Honda & Audi
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 111
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by motorsport_cat View Post
why the hell would audi say that the s7 hits 60 in under 5 seconds? its under 4...
They always under rate their numbers. Theyre more on the conservative side.
__________________
Honda CR-Z - Daily Wife
Audi A5 - Weekend Mistress
aceking4u is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 12:37 PM   #61
vladberca
Brigadier General
 
vladberca's Avatar
 
Drives: '09 jetta tsi 6mt
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Craiova

Posts: 3,637
iTrader: (0)

In terms of "road presence" the GC stays near Panamera, CLS and A7 are a class lower
vladberca is online now   Romania
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 12:55 PM   #62
vladberca
Brigadier General
 
vladberca's Avatar
 
Drives: '09 jetta tsi 6mt
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Craiova

Posts: 3,637
iTrader: (0)

Individual interior of 6 GC

Attached Images
 
vladberca is online now   Romania
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 01:23 PM   #63
aceking4u
Private First Class
 
Drives: Honda & Audi
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 111
iTrader: (0)

Add another $5k for that individual interior lol.
__________________
Honda CR-Z - Daily Wife
Audi A5 - Weekend Mistress
aceking4u is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 01:28 PM   #64
djsaad1
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: range rover
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: United States

Posts: 328
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aceking4u View Post
Add another $5k for that individual interior lol.
I haven't read the article yet, but if you look at the numbers on the first page of this thread. The base price is $10,000-$15,000 more on the GC. Not sure why the GC they tested is $24,000 more than base compared to about $5500 above base for the others.

The GC they tested is pretty loaded, while the Mercedes must not have much options at all on it.
djsaad1 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 01:32 PM   #65
aceking4u
Private First Class
 
Drives: Honda & Audi
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 111
iTrader: (0)

Charging $115k and can't even put in aluminum pedals...and god that Wood trim is hideous

__________________
Honda CR-Z - Daily Wife
Audi A5 - Weekend Mistress
aceking4u is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      01-29-2013, 01:33 PM   #66
aceking4u
Private First Class
 
Drives: Honda & Audi
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 111
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by djsaad1 View Post
I haven't read the article yet, but if you look at the numbers on the first page of this thread. The base price is $10,000-$15,000 more on the GC. Not sure why the GC they tested is $24,000 more than base compared to about $5500 above base for the others.

The GC they tested is pretty loaded, while the Mercedes must not have much options at all on it.
Go try and build a S7 on audiusa.com you'll see the car tested here is loaded for the price you see of roughly $85-87k
__________________
Honda CR-Z - Daily Wife
Audi A5 - Weekend Mistress
aceking4u is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:43 AM.




6post.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST