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      11-12-2012, 12:15 PM   #1
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Question 6 series steering

Does anyone notice any Dead, on center steering issues with the 640 or 650i ?

I tired a 550i sedan and found that I experienced some dead on center and didn't like it at all.
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      11-12-2012, 01:58 PM   #2
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Loads of posts on this over on the 5 series forum.
It's a known issue with electric steering.
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      11-12-2012, 09:00 PM   #3
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I think the M6 has the hydraulic steering and does not have this issue.

So are you saying that since the 640 and 650i have electric steering that they have the dead on center as well?
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      11-12-2012, 10:50 PM   #4
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I think the M6 has the hydraulic steering and does not have this issue.

So are you saying that since the 640 and 650i have electric steering that they have the dead on center as well?
My former F30 had ES and had no dead feel issues. I've just taken delivery of my 640GC and I felt no such issue either.
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      11-13-2012, 09:52 AM   #5
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I haven't noticed it. I will say that I dislike the feel of the 2013 3 series loaner cars from the dealership, though.
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      11-13-2012, 10:41 PM   #6
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The 650xi gets hydraulic, and I'm very happy with my choice to go the xDrive route even though I don't really need it for its typical areas of usefulness.
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      11-14-2012, 12:24 AM   #7
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I was driving it today, and I didn't have that problem. I was switching between sport and comfort mode on freeway and surface street. The steering feel was precise and very predictable regardless of the mode and speed. The feedback is very good for a GT. However, I can imagine the feedback being very synthetic on wet surface when comparing to hydraulic system. You want to be safe and slow in that condition anyway.
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      11-16-2012, 01:49 PM   #8
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I really don't understand everyone's problem with electric steering. I don't understand "lack of road feel" and feeling "dead."

Your hands are on the wheel keeping the car straight and your eyes and body are confirming this. I think the problem with electric steering is lack of hand to eye coordination.

My car turns so much easier than my wife's hydraulic steering X6. I really have no interest in muscling through turns in my tight parking lot. Electric Steering is very precise and I feel everything I need to on it.

It's essentially fly-by-wire for aircraft which adapts to the environment.

In short, I love it... Especially when coupled with Active Steering.
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      11-18-2012, 02:04 AM   #9
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In short, I love it... Especially when coupled with Active Steering.
I almost thought you were going to make it through a whole post about steering without mentioning the IAS - then your last few words reassured me that all is right with the world
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The 650xi gets hydraulic, and I'm very happy with my choice to go the xDrive route even though I don't really need it for its typical areas of usefulness.
I was happy when I read that the 650i Xdrive came with Hydraulic Steering. So Before I put in my order for a 650i Xdrive, I asked the salesperson and he said emphatically, "NO!" it's electric. so I contcted another Dealer about the Steering on the 650i Xdrive, and he also Said, "NO."

So Can you tell me where it says it on either your MSRP, or Manual? I'm looking at 2012's and 2013 models...

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      12-10-2012, 04:30 PM   #11
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I was happy when I read that the 650i Xdrive came with Hydraulic Steering. So Before I put in my order for a 650i Xdrive, I asked the salesperson and he said emphatically, "NO!" it's electric. so I contcted another Dealer about the Steering on the 650i Xdrive, and he also Said, "NO."

So Can you tell me where it says it on either your MSRP, or Manual? I'm looking at 2012's and 2013 models...

Thanks
I have always been sensitive to steering and was worried about all the electrical steering talk. My 650 ix GC has electrical steering, and I love it. Very light but precise enough and good feedback. Unless you are on a track, I think most people will be perfectly happy with it.
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I have always been sensitive to steering and was worried about all the electrical steering talk. My 650 ix GC has electrical steering, and I love it. Very light but precise enough and good feedback. Unless you are on a track, I think most people will be perfectly happy with it.
You just get used to it. Like everything new, there's an adjustment period.

I bet when power-steering made its debut people must've been like "wow, this thing sucks, it feels so artificial!"
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