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      05-16-2012, 08:42 PM   #23
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I think BMW is losing it. Don't get me wrong, I love their cars. But why all of these major changes year to year? It seems to be more frequent as time goes on. For example, the redesigned dash changes recently announced on the f10 5 series from 2012-2013. The new changes and the 40hp difference for the 2013 650i vs the 2012 model. The 2008 E90 m3 had old idrive and old tail lights. In 2009, new idrive and LCI tailights. I understand they are "improvements" but from a customer standpoint, its annoying and expensive to keep up with. We buy BMW's for luxury and performance and to own a high quality vehicles, not to have an "obsolete" model after 8 months. Am I the only one annoyed by this?
It keeps you always wanting the latest/greatest. Trust me, when I found out my 2006 550 with all the upgrades was only going to be an 8 month run before the NEW 2007 came out, I was not happy. But it made me WANT the newer car.

gehmjc21 - I know - that sucks. You still have an incredible car and will have an incredible trip.
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      05-16-2012, 09:50 PM   #24
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So let me get this straight you are mad because a company is constantly trying to improve rather then stay stagnant.

I never understand when people buy cars to keep up with joneses or to prove I have the latest and greatest and you do not...ha.. ha.. haha... ha.

All cars go through life cycle changes to keep the sales going and interest spiked. I would be more upset if a company sat idled and did not improve their products. Heck I wish the M3 engine had a power bump because with time it was being out classed by its rivals. Where 414hp was sufficient at one time now at least 450hp is required on paper for equal comparison. At least BMW M did not sit on their behinds and did give a useful comp. pkg to keep the car more competitive.

Now if you are one of those that has to have the latest and greatest at all time. Then you know the saying......"you gotta pay to play"


On the other hand I am secure in what I bought and it does not make me feel bad that I do not have the latest and greatest. Because when I bought the car at that time those were the options and gizmos that I liked and were sufficient for me. Just cause some thing new came along it does not mean my thing is trash....it still satisfies my needs more then enough......all the while I can appreciate the improvement in new product.

My 745i was old news compare to 750i ditto for my 545i vs 550i or 335i vs 335is. However, I am happy in what I have until I decide to move on. Be content pal and not stress over every little change. Because girls and cars both lose lust factor with each passing year....however lust is replaced with love and respect (:


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I think BMW is losing it. Don't get me wrong, I love their cars. But why all of these major changes year to year? It seems to be more frequent as time goes on. For example, the redesigned dash changes recently announced on the f10 5 series from 2012-2013. The new changes and the 40hp difference for the 2013 650i vs the 2012 model. The 2008 E90 m3 had old idrive and old tail lights. In 2009, new idrive and LCI tailights. I understand they are "improvements" but from a customer standpoint, its annoying and expensive to keep up with. We buy BMW's for luxury and performance and to own a high quality vehicles, not to have an "obsolete" model after 8 months. Am I the only one annoyed by this?
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      05-16-2012, 10:03 PM   #25
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I Cant Believe This B***shit My Car Is Due To Be Delivered Next Wed (2012 650i Imola Red With Vermillion Red Interior M Sport) . Have Been Waiting For It For Over Two Months And Before I Even Take Delivery There Isa Car Thats Better Then What I Just Payed Top Dollar For Lol. Its So Sad Thats Its Funny
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      05-16-2012, 11:50 PM   #26
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Must suck for some of you especially with this relatively large bump for the 650i, heck its half an engine grade of performance.
The regular 5 doesn't get it because its still too new, they don't need it yet to keep up the sales. Which begs why the 6 and 6GC, I guess its because of their premium pricing, and vs. competitors etc.
On the other side, the 1st year F10 528 got the N52/3 engine with 258hp which is the same as the 530 now, same torque and only 14hp less. Price was also lower.
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      05-17-2012, 06:15 AM   #27
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My Car Is Due To Be Delivered Next Wed (2012 650i Imola Red With Vermillion Red Interior M Sport) ...
Don't mean to interrupt the loathing, but I had no idea Imola Red was available on the 2012 6 series. I thought it was new. Was that there from SOP last year?
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      05-17-2012, 09:57 AM   #28
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Sometimes is better to wait a little bit if you know some important updates may occur
Other than that either model is very good!
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      05-17-2012, 01:36 PM   #29
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No you are not the only one. In December 2011 I shelled out a hundred fucking grand for a 650 M Sport. I am fucking pissed.
Go get a tune.
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      05-18-2012, 03:20 PM   #30
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I learned my lesson buying a 330i right away and then seeing the 335i come out not to long after.

Im waiting lol
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      05-18-2012, 08:06 PM   #31
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As cars become more and more computerized, their technology evolves more and more rapidly because of it. If BMW sat back and did not keep up with the latest advancements, then they would lose ground to their competitors. Also, these competitors introduce new models on different schedules than BMW and they invariably come packed with new features. There is no room for waiting around just to keep existing owners copasetic.

I am sure you are not the only one annoyed by this phenomenon. However, I don't think you will escape it by choosing a different brand of vehicle. So perhaps is is best to just accept it as the price of doing business and try to enjoy the car you have. Just my thoughts.
I completely understand what you are saying. In the same breathe as my earlier rant, and as you stated, competitors would blow past BMW if they didnt make these changes. But come on..The 6er is a new born on the dealership lots and is already getting changes?? It's something that will never change, no matter how much we bitch and complain.. but perhaps just making these cars the most powerful, and the most advanced from the get go, by a larger margin then their competitors. I still have lots of love for BMW, and plan on buying another one when the time presents itself. Will it be new, so I can take a huge depreciation hit after 4 months when the "+8 hp" model comes out? no chance in hell
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      05-19-2012, 05:10 PM   #32
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im probably going to go the Dinan route
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      05-19-2012, 10:34 PM   #33
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I just did a write up on my blog about the 2012 v. 2013 6er topic. Let me know what you think (I started another thread on the 6er page to further discuss what I wrote).

http://southern6er22.blogspot.com/20...ies-f1213.html
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      06-04-2012, 02:24 PM   #34
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plz jasson .. what about the multifunction instrument display on 2013 6seris ??

there is any information ??
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      06-11-2012, 05:47 PM   #35
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I just did a write up on my blog about the 2012 v. 2013 6er topic. Let me know what you think (I started another thread on the 6er page to further discuss what I wrote).

http://southern6er22.blogspot.com/20...ies-f1213.html


WOW>>>>>>> Your blog is incredible man! I couldn't stop reading it.

I ordered my Alpine White/Ivory/Fine Line Oak 650i M-Sport this past Saturday. I didn't get the B&O, didn't feel it was worth it. I got M-Sport, Adaptive Drive, Exec Pack and LED Lights. It came out a lil cheaper than a 2012 model with the same equipment. The 2013 Exec pack is a really good value coming from BMW. Salesman says 6-8 weeks now. I hate waiting. Can't wait to feel the upgraded power as the 2012 model felt powerful enough for me on the many test drives I took.

One question though, why xdrive if you're in Alabama?


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      07-03-2012, 06:16 PM   #36
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As cars become more and more computerized, their technology evolves more and more rapidly because of it. If BMW sat back and did not keep up with the latest advancements, then they would lose ground to their competitors. Also, these competitors introduce new models on different schedules than BMW and they invariably come packed with new features. There is no room for waiting around just to keep existing owners copasetic.

I am sure you are not the only one annoyed by this phenomenon. However, I don't think you will escape it by choosing a different brand of vehicle. So perhaps is is best to just accept it as the price of doing business and try to enjoy the car you have. Just my thoughts.
I'm not sure it's evolving as much as it's optimizing profit. Looks to me like they are using the Bill Gates/Microsoft method to riches. Create something great but only give out some of i every year, forcing people to upgrade.
Hey, it works for Microsoft.
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      07-17-2012, 04:11 PM   #37
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the 2013 model now in the official website
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      07-17-2012, 05:16 PM   #38
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the 2013 model now in the official website
where do you see it ?
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      07-17-2012, 08:44 PM   #39
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where do you see it ?
in the main bmw website

go th the 6 series coupe and convertable

and 5 series grantourismo ..

and see the horse power ..

from 407 ---- to 450 horsepower ..

wait the next some days 2 see the all update for 2013 model ..
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where do you see it ?
I don't see it on bmwusa.com, but it is on the UK site:

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...ata/index.html
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      07-20-2012, 06:42 AM   #41
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what is the 0-60mph in the 2013 650i cabrio x- drive ??
how much dose the 40hp help because in the 750li 5.3s with 407hp and 4.8 with 445.
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what is the 0-60mph in the 2013 650i cabrio x- drive ??
how much dose the 40hp help because in the 750li 5.3s with 407hp and 4.8 with 445.
The new N63tu-powered 7 Series acceleration times have also been bolstered by the addition of the 8 speed auto where previously it had used the older 6 speed.

I would guess similar acceleration times for a F12 and F02 with the same engine and transmission due to similar weights.
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The 650i is 2055kg
The 750li is 2135kg
There is 80kg difference
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is there any posibility to turn of the stop&GO function totaly ??
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