BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   6Post.com | BMW 6-Series Forum > BMW 6 Series Forum > General 6-Series Coupe, Convertible, and Gran Coupe Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-12-2011, 08:45 AM   #67
SCOTT26
Brigadier General
 
SCOTT26's Avatar
 
Drives: Frozen Dark Silver 30 Jahre
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WORLDWIDE

Posts: 3,038
iTrader: (0)

Actually the 6er Gran Coupe makes perfect sense.
It is a model that can be produced off an available platform. In this case the matrix that links the 7,5,5GT and 6 it also allows the model to come to the market in a shorter time and be profitable because it will be a niche car.

Had things been different then then we would be seeing the final 7er GT - aka Concept CS , unfortunately what preceded that to cause the cancellation was out of BMW's hands. The 6er Gran Coupe is not the overall replacement for Concept CS as many are iliterating. Concept CS was the BMW flagship between BMW and Rolls-Royce Ghost.

We will see the CS arise like a phoenix in the second half of this decade but this is a competitor to the expanding 4dr Coupe segment which will encompass other segments aswell as the mid-level segment.
The people who want a sports Coupe but with extra space.

People who like the new 6er Coupe but have needs for extra passenger flexibility will be overjoyed.
__________________
XS
SCOTT26 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-12-2011, 10:33 AM   #68
Mako
2000 M Roadster (sold), 2006 M Coupe (sold)
 
Drives: '12 X3 35i M Spt '13 335 M Spt
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chicago

Posts: 1,317
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faust View Post
I'm sure the 6er GC will get the 4.4 litre V8, 407hp and 443 lb/ft. Easily matching CLS550's numbers. We just don't know weight yet. And it will definitely drive better.

Not to mention M6 GC!
except that the 6 GC will probably start around $5K less than the CLS AMG, and the M6 GC will be $20K higher than the AMG...

I like the BMW, but its overpriced. and BMW has the 3 series handling down but when it comes to bigger cars I wouldn't say "definitely" better handling, the CLS is a hell of a machine! that said if they were priced the same I would take the BMW, but $15K can't be ignored.
Mako is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-12-2011, 10:44 AM   #69
mkoesel
Moderator
 
Drives: 2015 Felt IA2
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

Posts: 13,643
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mako View Post
except that the 6 GC will probably start around $5K less than the CLS AMG, and the M6 GC will be $20K higher than the AMG...
I highly doubt 640i GC will start much over $70k. True, Mercedes gives you the V8 model for that price. However, I expect they will bump the V8 model price up once the CLS 350 makes it to the lineup in the US. BMW will still be the highest priced of the three (A7 will remain lowest), but they are not going to price themselves out of the market, that's for sure. CLS AMG is, what, about $100k? I would figure the M6 GC to land right in that price range as well.
__________________
-
mkoesel is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-12-2011, 11:22 AM   #70
positiveions
Lieutenant General
 
positiveions's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 MKV JETTA 2.5 & E90 M3 :)
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: La Verne, CA

Posts: 10,444
iTrader: (1)

Send a message via MSN to positiveions Send a message via Yahoo to positiveions
the car is ugly.
positiveions is offline   Lebanon
0
Reply With Quote
      07-12-2011, 11:28 AM   #71
ron_jeremy
Lieutenant
 
ron_jeremy's Avatar
 
Drives: E84 X1 20d
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Norway

Posts: 432
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTT26 View Post
Actually the 6er Gran Coupe makes perfect sense.
It is a model that can be produced off an available platform. In this case the matrix that links the 7,5,5GT and 6 it also allows the model to come to the market in a shorter time and be profitable because it will be a niche car.

Had things been different then then we would be seeing the final 7er GT - aka Concept CS , unfortunately what preceded that to cause the cancellation was out of BMW's hands. The 6er Gran Coupe is not the overall replacement for Concept CS as many are iliterating. Concept CS was the BMW flagship between BMW and Rolls-Royce Ghost.

We will see the CS arise like a phoenix in the second half of this decade but this is a competitor to the expanding 4dr Coupe segment which will encompass other segments aswell as the mid-level segment.
The people who want a sports Coupe but with extra space.

People who like the new 6er Coupe but have needs for extra passenger flexibility will be overjoyed.
Sounds intresting, i really liked the idea of the CS, and the level you put it on, doesn't make it less so.
For the branding of BMW it's make perfect sense.
They don't have any supercar as of now, so a higher end luxury car, above the 7, is a good way to boost it's brand.
Audi is doing this with theyr rebadged Lambo.
So BMW should do the same within 5 years, that and build a M8'ish supercar.
__________________
3 series: E30: 89 325i, E36: 92 325iC, 94 320iC, 96 320i Convertible, 94 320iaC, E46: 99 320ia, E90: 06 318i Le mans, E91: 07 318dt
5 series: E39: 97 520ia, 01 530Dat, E61: 09 520Dat
X series: E83 05 X3 2.0d , E84 10' X1 2.0 X-drive DA.
ron_jeremy is offline   Norway
0
Reply With Quote
      07-12-2011, 06:57 PM   #72
Faust
Private First Class
 
Drives: Vauxhall Calibra
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: London

Posts: 115
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mako View Post
except that the 6 GC will probably start around $5K less than the CLS AMG, and the M6 GC will be $20K higher than the AMG...

I like the BMW, but its overpriced. and BMW has the 3 series handling down but when it comes to bigger cars I wouldn't say "definitely" better handling, the CLS is a hell of a machine! that said if they were priced the same I would take the BMW, but $15K can't be ignored.
Here in Europe the 6er GC will probably start at around 80-90K Euros ($110-120K) or more. Sigh! I don't really know whats up with pricing policy, it really doesn't make sense to price a product 20K above your direct competitors. But let's wait and see.

I still think BMW's handle better across the range though. The 5er handles better than the E-Class, the 7er better than the S-Class, etc. I guess it's where the focus of BMW is compared to MB that seem to focus more on ride quality.

I don't know about the current CLS model, but the previous one was largely based on the E-Class which frankly made driving it a bit dissapointing given it's sporty looks. Though the previous E-Class was a hell of a good passenger car.
Faust is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-12-2011, 07:05 PM   #73
Faust
Private First Class
 
Drives: Vauxhall Calibra
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: London

Posts: 115
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTT26 View Post
Had things been different then then we would be seeing the final 7er GT - aka Concept CS , unfortunately what preceded that to cause the cancellation was out of BMW's hands.
By that you mean the recession Scott?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTT26 View Post
We will see the CS arise like a phoenix in the second half of this decade...
Hopefully with a brand new design though! The CS would be like, 10 years old by then :-)

Seriously, it annoys me often how much time concepts take to materialise. 3-4 years is too much time imo. By the time they reach production they are already years old designs.
Faust is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-13-2011, 08:49 PM   #74
bavarian19
General
 
bavarian19's Avatar
 
Drives: Car
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: VA

Posts: 18,809
iTrader: (23)

Not bad, but probably will be way overpriced.
bavarian19 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      08-04-2011, 08:06 AM   #75
E90Fleet
Major General
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: South Africa

Posts: 8,047
iTrader: (0)

Just for correctness, the first car in this thread painted in the Individual color "Ruby Black"
__________________
Nominated: Member of the Year, Most Contributing Member


BMW if you are reading, I need a job
E90Fleet is offline   South Africa
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
6 series forum, 6 series forums, 6-series forum, 6-series forums, bmw 6 series forum, bmw 6 series forums, bmw 6-series forum, bmw 6-series forums

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:35 AM.




6post.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST