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      08-27-2012, 02:13 PM   #79
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Originally Posted by mapezzul View Post
It's actually quite neutral and if your saying Bill and Andy are not good drivers... you're nuts.

If you've never driven Laguna or seen it in real life, the track is very technical and the turns are not straight forward because of banking and elevation changes. The red markers are NOT the apexes of the turns and actually if you hit those spots you will destroy the tire and wheel and cause some other damage as well.

Bill is very aggressive coming out of the corkscrew and purposefully gets the car into almost an understeer sideways drift as that is the fastest line through there and when you let up the rear end gets loose into an oversteer for the next turn, it is magical to see how all that weight can be tossed around thanks to the hard mounted suspension and e-LSD. The M6 is real quick for such a heavy machine- it is impressive and I'd love to see someone take it vs. an AM and go head to head bc the M6 is actually cheap then.
I'm glad someone said it. Laguna Seca is considered one of the most technical (if not the most technical) tracks in the US, I did a Skip Barber school at Laguna Seca so I can tell you from first hand experience that it's a brutal track and also my absolute favorite.

You have to remember that these guys aren't trying to set laptimes, they're just driving fans around the track and trying to show them a good time without putting them in danger. Another important thing a lot of people don't seem to grasp is that road cars are crap on the track. All of them. Absolutely every single car that is sold at a dealer from any brand is way too soft (in terms of springs, bushings, sway bars, etc.) to be any good on a track. I've been in a Superleggera around the track and even that was too soft. Generally speaking, street tires are done after just 2-3 laps of aggressive driving on a track, you need to stop or at least slow down and cool them off so obviously these drivers can't go 10/10s in these cars all day long. I learned this last point the hard way trying to get in front of a 997 Turbo at Chuckwalla Valley Raceway and ended up going straight off the track when my tires completely gave up.
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