I ordered mine from the dealer also. They absorbed a lot of the cost. The sotto zeros are good tires with v speed ratings. Unfortunately, they would not be much use in snow (despite what they claim). I would clearly like the V rating but I can settle for the H. Thanks for your help. I greatly appreciate it. My dealer did eventually find the packages. However, they would not had I not mentioned. I would not have mentioned it if you hadn't offered it....Don't wait too long. Thanks again. Be safe.